Bledisloe 2
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@Siam I think his biggest clanger was the awarding of a try and then claiming he had awarded a penalty not a try...watched the replay this morning and he definitely signalled try, he got down and was looking very hard at it before awarding it, only to overturn it.
Was a very bizaare decision by him, in that situation, I think it was clear the ball was grounded, eventually, but I dont think he saw it grounded, but knew it was, then the TMO has maybe said hey bro we should have a wee looksy at this one, no try...
Seen others like BFAs given, although I think this one was correct, on another day I think Foley's try is not given as I reckon there was a touch off the hand of Genia, but last night it was a try.
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Could understand the no Smith try but BBBR was bizzare
Owens seemed to have the best view and awarded it yet went to the TMO
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@Siam said in Bledisloe 2:
Anyone else think "Matt Todd" when Genia turnstiled Savea?
Nothing really against Ardie but we've been pretty comfortable with a tightish number 7 for a long time now...
I'd put Todd in to start if Cane was ruled out. But on the bench you kind of have to go for flexibility.
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Blaming the ref gets you nowhere, over enough games it all evens out. At the end of the day the most important thing are the points in the bank. If you don't end the game with more than the opposition you lose.
I respect Hansen for never publicaly criticising the ref, even after the Lions clanger he kept his cool. Refs are human and make mistakes, we all like to look for excuses when things don't go our way.
We are told as kids to always play to the refs whistle whether we like it or not.
I really don't like the message he is sending to young kids watching. The swearing and antics is offensive and should be dealt with by World Rugby IMO.
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@Siam said in Bledisloe 2:
Not a big deal, but I'm wondering how Owens' performance wasn't the same as a scatty frenchman's appraisal
I mean sure the game flowed and all that but you put a Poite or Garces face on that reffing display and he'd get roasted.
No?
Awarding tries and then changing? bloke stops a certain try and nothing? even the Retallick thing?
still no?
ok fair enough
Owens didn't actually award that try. He just blew for a penalty and people thought it was a try. Owens has always been a bit weird in the way he awards penalties and sometimes points his arm the other way and then turns around.
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Just watched the game again. DMac made one big mistake which was the intercept pass. He was pretty good otherwise and created the Ben Smith try. Looks like he's going to be one of those players whose errors are going to be magnified by the public. I wouldn't feel comfortable seeing him start a game against a NH team or even SA but he is being unfairly criticised for his two performances against the Wallabies. BB made a lot of blunders as well but nobody is calling him up for them
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@hydro11 dunno, he got down on his knee, blew like a try, pointed to where BBBR has likely grounded it...why did he not say that when the ABs got up congratulating one another on a try, when they were walking back, when BB was lining up he even went back and told him to hold as they were looking at it, not hey BB this is a penalty kick not conversion, why has your team gone to half way, that confident in your boot even when we hadnt taken a single PK in the game, then when he got the TMO to look at it? All evidence points to him awarding a try.
Reckon it was a complete shambles.
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@taniwharugby my reply is superfluous due to yours
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe 2:
Blaming the ref gets you nowhere, over enough games it all evens out. At the end of the day the most important thing are the points in the bank. If you don't end the game with more than the opposition you lose.
I respect Hansen for never publicaly criticising the ref, even after the Lions clanger he kept his cool. Refs are human and make mistakes, we all like to look for excuses when things don't go our way.
We are told as kids to always play to the refs whistle whether we like it or not.
I really don't like the message he is sending to young kids watching. The swearing and antics is offensive and should be dealt with by World Rugby IMO.
I did see a wee "fuksake" escape Shag after the Retallick TMO debacle ... but in comparison ... It's bringing the game into disrepute really.
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@booboo Cheika did a lot more than blame the ref. He pretty much accused Owens of match fixing which was a disgraceful comment. He was interviewed by one of the Fox Sports guys post match and said that the "script had already been written". When asked to clarify this comment at the PC, he then said that he couldn't elaborate on that as it would land him in hot water.
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe 2:
I think I saw Shag mouth fuck sake re Ben Smiths non-try, not like him.
Oh. Was it BFA's? Knew I saw it somewhere. Was remarkable in it's rarity.
A great shot was the split screen with Klownboy leaping around like a performing seal and whilst Shag smirked and scratched his nose at the camera.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Going to the TMO just because he might find something wrong? Fuck this bullshit.
Yeah. Like that try we were denied last year because of a supposed obstruction on Savea.
Not direct comparisons Nick
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@akan004 said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo Cheika did a lot more than blame the ref. He pretty much accused Owens of match fixing which was a disgraceful comment. He was interviewed by one of the Fox Sports guys post match and said that the "script had already been written". When asked to clarify this comment at the PC, he then said that he couldn't elaborate on that as it would land him in hot water.
I like to put the boot into Cheika as much as the next bloke but the script being written could mean anything. The narrative is that the All Blacks were heavy, heavy favourites. So he could just be suggesting that Owens didn't want to change the script in that regard. That Owens may think that the only way the Wallabies could win is if he had given them the rub of the green.
Personally I thought he did give them the rub, how a team can be so dominant at scrum time and not win a single scrum penalty is beyond me.
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