Bledisloe 2
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@Rapido Rubbish
There is a sanction for a halfback not "using it" and it is independent of the actions of the opposition.
That was about as effective a percentage play as sacrificing a goat on the pitch and hoping to regather possession with 10 seconds remaining.
He tried something that will never work in the hope that it would
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@booboo
Yeah the Hanigen offside was a wrong decision and looking at a replay in full speed I think wee nugget actually was just finding the fastes way to get the ball to an unmarked ReikoRugby laws of late have demonstrated that you can have the purest of intentions but if you fuck up, you're gone. Henigan had to be yellowed - harsh but true
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@Siam The break that lead to Genias try, BFA was hard done by not to get a t/o as he was being cleared out he had hands on the ball and was dragging Genia along the deck who was clinging for dear life, a few phases later he was up and scoring a great try...
For the most part Owens was good, but he did miss a fair bit, which he seems to do to let it flow, obviously my AB eye patch is he missed a bit more our way, but I expect Aussies will see it the other way.
INteresting moving odds stats from the TAB:
FIRST HALF
Odds at Kickoff: New Zealand $1.04 v Australia $9.001 Minute: New Zealand 0-5 Australia
Israel Folau grabs an intercept and races away for the opening try.
Odds: New Zealand $1.11 v Australia $5.5012 Minutes: New Zealand 0-12 Australia
Michael Hooper finds his way through a gap for the Wallabies second try.
Odds: New Zealand $1.20 v Australia $4.0014 Minutes: New Zealand 0-17 Australia
Bernard Foley scores Australia's thrid try inside the opening 14 minutes.
Odds: New Zealand $1.42 v Australia $2.6021 Minutes: New Zealand 7-17 Australia
The All Blacks finally get on the board courtesy of a Rieko Ioane try.
Odds: New Zealand $1.16 v Australia $4.5040 Minutes: New Zealand 14-17 Australia
Aaron Smith dives over for the All Blacks' second try with the final act of the first half.
Odds: New Zealand $1.11 v Australia $5.50SECOND HALF
60 Minutes: New Zealand 21-17 Australia
The All Blacks finally hit the lead after Beauden Barrett sneaks across the line.
Odds: New Zealand $1.20 v Australia $4.0067 Minutes: New Zealand 21-22 Australia
The Wallabies strike back through Will Genia and re-take the lead.
Odds: New Zealand $1.40 v Australia $2.7072 Minutes: New Zealand 28-22 Australia
The All Blacks string together 22 phases before Ben Smith finds some space to score the home side's fourth try of the night.
Odds: New Zealand $1.07 v Australia $6.75 -
To be honest, the 'oh, just passionate' defence gets me more than a bit pissy. It's insulting to the guys and gals at the highest level who work their guts out to succeed but don't feel the need to carry on like a douchebag.
Passion should not be measured by how many times you say fucking fluffybunny in a coaching box. It's so much more than that - getting up when you get knocked down. Wanting to learn, wanting to improve. Being able to admire greatness in others. Striving for excellence. Mumbling to yourself in the middle of the night because you have an idea and need to talk it through. Failing heaps and still having the drive to get up the next day with a bounce in your step. Loving what you do. -
Not a big deal, but I'm wondering how Owens' performance wasn't the same as a scatty frenchman's appraisal
I mean sure the game flowed and all that but you put a Poite or Garces face on that reffing display and he'd get roasted.
No?
Awarding tries and then changing? bloke stops a certain try and nothing? even the Retallick thing?
still no?
ok fair enough
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@Siam I think his biggest clanger was the awarding of a try and then claiming he had awarded a penalty not a try...watched the replay this morning and he definitely signalled try, he got down and was looking very hard at it before awarding it, only to overturn it.
Was a very bizaare decision by him, in that situation, I think it was clear the ball was grounded, eventually, but I dont think he saw it grounded, but knew it was, then the TMO has maybe said hey bro we should have a wee looksy at this one, no try...
Seen others like BFAs given, although I think this one was correct, on another day I think Foley's try is not given as I reckon there was a touch off the hand of Genia, but last night it was a try.
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@Siam said in Bledisloe 2:
Anyone else think "Matt Todd" when Genia turnstiled Savea?
Nothing really against Ardie but we've been pretty comfortable with a tightish number 7 for a long time now...
I'd put Todd in to start if Cane was ruled out. But on the bench you kind of have to go for flexibility.
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Blaming the ref gets you nowhere, over enough games it all evens out. At the end of the day the most important thing are the points in the bank. If you don't end the game with more than the opposition you lose.
I respect Hansen for never publicaly criticising the ref, even after the Lions clanger he kept his cool. Refs are human and make mistakes, we all like to look for excuses when things don't go our way.
We are told as kids to always play to the refs whistle whether we like it or not.
I really don't like the message he is sending to young kids watching. The swearing and antics is offensive and should be dealt with by World Rugby IMO.
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@Siam said in Bledisloe 2:
Not a big deal, but I'm wondering how Owens' performance wasn't the same as a scatty frenchman's appraisal
I mean sure the game flowed and all that but you put a Poite or Garces face on that reffing display and he'd get roasted.
No?
Awarding tries and then changing? bloke stops a certain try and nothing? even the Retallick thing?
still no?
ok fair enough
Owens didn't actually award that try. He just blew for a penalty and people thought it was a try. Owens has always been a bit weird in the way he awards penalties and sometimes points his arm the other way and then turns around.
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Just watched the game again. DMac made one big mistake which was the intercept pass. He was pretty good otherwise and created the Ben Smith try. Looks like he's going to be one of those players whose errors are going to be magnified by the public. I wouldn't feel comfortable seeing him start a game against a NH team or even SA but he is being unfairly criticised for his two performances against the Wallabies. BB made a lot of blunders as well but nobody is calling him up for them
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@hydro11 dunno, he got down on his knee, blew like a try, pointed to where BBBR has likely grounded it...why did he not say that when the ABs got up congratulating one another on a try, when they were walking back, when BB was lining up he even went back and told him to hold as they were looking at it, not hey BB this is a penalty kick not conversion, why has your team gone to half way, that confident in your boot even when we hadnt taken a single PK in the game, then when he got the TMO to look at it? All evidence points to him awarding a try.
Reckon it was a complete shambles.
