Bledisloe 2
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@Kruse said in Bledisloe 2:
@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
I noticed he doesn't refer to us as the ABs. He doesn't realise he's in full aura mode
I noticed in Hansen's onfield interview that he called us "Australia" and not "The Wallabies".
So is that a thing or does he call us The Wallabies at other times?
It's not a thing in either direction, unless somebody decides it's "a thing".
And if somebody even starts thinking it's "a thing"... then they've already lost. At life, at least.Plenty of people here think it's a thing when people don't call the New Zealand senior men's Rugby team "The All Blacks".
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@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kruse said in Bledisloe 2:
And if somebody even starts thinking it's "a thing"... then they've already lost. At life, at least.Plenty of people here think it's a thing when people don't call the New Zealand senior men's Rugby team "The All Blacks".
Seems like we're in agreement.
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I actually thought it was a good percentage play by Hooper at the end. I would have given them the turnover if I was ref, and he forced Owens to make a decision. That decision was 'I'm giving remedial halfback coaching lessons so I'll give you unlimited seconds and 3 shouted earnings to use it, but not actually make you use it, and penalise the opposition for having the temerity to think my "use it" warning was actually genuine'
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that last try, was amusing as MArshall called it as they were heading to halfway, said they'll split the forwards, go flat with Read to get it back...even funnier though, Owens asked Sopoaga which way he was going to restart, left or right, he signalled left but went right and almost looked like Owens was gonna blow his whistle for something.
@Rapido I think they need to tidy up the halfback work at the back, we saw in the Lions series alot of messing at the back of rucks, but that was a low percentage play, albeit his only one
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@Rapido Rubbish
There is a sanction for a halfback not "using it" and it is independent of the actions of the opposition.
That was about as effective a percentage play as sacrificing a goat on the pitch and hoping to regather possession with 10 seconds remaining.
He tried something that will never work in the hope that it would
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@booboo
Yeah the Hanigen offside was a wrong decision and looking at a replay in full speed I think wee nugget actually was just finding the fastes way to get the ball to an unmarked ReikoRugby laws of late have demonstrated that you can have the purest of intentions but if you fuck up, you're gone. Henigan had to be yellowed - harsh but true
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@Siam The break that lead to Genias try, BFA was hard done by not to get a t/o as he was being cleared out he had hands on the ball and was dragging Genia along the deck who was clinging for dear life, a few phases later he was up and scoring a great try...
For the most part Owens was good, but he did miss a fair bit, which he seems to do to let it flow, obviously my AB eye patch is he missed a bit more our way, but I expect Aussies will see it the other way.
INteresting moving odds stats from the TAB:
FIRST HALF
Odds at Kickoff: New Zealand $1.04 v Australia $9.001 Minute: New Zealand 0-5 Australia
Israel Folau grabs an intercept and races away for the opening try.
Odds: New Zealand $1.11 v Australia $5.5012 Minutes: New Zealand 0-12 Australia
Michael Hooper finds his way through a gap for the Wallabies second try.
Odds: New Zealand $1.20 v Australia $4.0014 Minutes: New Zealand 0-17 Australia
Bernard Foley scores Australia's thrid try inside the opening 14 minutes.
Odds: New Zealand $1.42 v Australia $2.6021 Minutes: New Zealand 7-17 Australia
The All Blacks finally get on the board courtesy of a Rieko Ioane try.
Odds: New Zealand $1.16 v Australia $4.5040 Minutes: New Zealand 14-17 Australia
Aaron Smith dives over for the All Blacks' second try with the final act of the first half.
Odds: New Zealand $1.11 v Australia $5.50SECOND HALF
60 Minutes: New Zealand 21-17 Australia
The All Blacks finally hit the lead after Beauden Barrett sneaks across the line.
Odds: New Zealand $1.20 v Australia $4.0067 Minutes: New Zealand 21-22 Australia
The Wallabies strike back through Will Genia and re-take the lead.
Odds: New Zealand $1.40 v Australia $2.7072 Minutes: New Zealand 28-22 Australia
The All Blacks string together 22 phases before Ben Smith finds some space to score the home side's fourth try of the night.
Odds: New Zealand $1.07 v Australia $6.75 -
To be honest, the 'oh, just passionate' defence gets me more than a bit pissy. It's insulting to the guys and gals at the highest level who work their guts out to succeed but don't feel the need to carry on like a douchebag.
Passion should not be measured by how many times you say fucking fluffybunny in a coaching box. It's so much more than that - getting up when you get knocked down. Wanting to learn, wanting to improve. Being able to admire greatness in others. Striving for excellence. Mumbling to yourself in the middle of the night because you have an idea and need to talk it through. Failing heaps and still having the drive to get up the next day with a bounce in your step. Loving what you do. -
Not a big deal, but I'm wondering how Owens' performance wasn't the same as a scatty frenchman's appraisal
I mean sure the game flowed and all that but you put a Poite or Garces face on that reffing display and he'd get roasted.
No?
Awarding tries and then changing? bloke stops a certain try and nothing? even the Retallick thing?
still no?
ok fair enough
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@Siam I think his biggest clanger was the awarding of a try and then claiming he had awarded a penalty not a try...watched the replay this morning and he definitely signalled try, he got down and was looking very hard at it before awarding it, only to overturn it.
Was a very bizaare decision by him, in that situation, I think it was clear the ball was grounded, eventually, but I dont think he saw it grounded, but knew it was, then the TMO has maybe said hey bro we should have a wee looksy at this one, no try...
Seen others like BFAs given, although I think this one was correct, on another day I think Foley's try is not given as I reckon there was a touch off the hand of Genia, but last night it was a try.
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Could understand the no Smith try but BBBR was bizzare
Owens seemed to have the best view and awarded it yet went to the TMO
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@Siam said in Bledisloe 2:
Anyone else think "Matt Todd" when Genia turnstiled Savea?
Nothing really against Ardie but we've been pretty comfortable with a tightish number 7 for a long time now...
I'd put Todd in to start if Cane was ruled out. But on the bench you kind of have to go for flexibility.
