All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.
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Oooh... One of the questions for Cheika was "do you have any comment about what they've achieved with 18 wins in a row?"
Response:
"Oh mate I don't really think they want my comment. They dressed us up as clowns today so they wouldn't really want our comment. I don't think they'd respect our comment anyway, so we won't make one"
Another reporter: "what do you mean they dressed you up as clowns?"
Cheika: "It was on the front page of the paper, bro. So I won't bother making a comment" -- bit more comment here, before losing his line a little before another reporter (kiwi) asks: "Reading between the lines, do you take that as a mark of disrespect?"
Cheika starts to respond, Moore cuts in
"Yeah mate, I do. Abosolutely"Then some other reporters want to hunt that line down with Moore. He didn't want much of it, but seemed pretty offended that the Wallaby jersey - and all those who pulled it on - were basically slighted by that.
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Was pretty shit of the ground announcer to mention the unenviable 2 clean sweep series losses too as a record for Aus after praising ours.
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@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
I think the try should have be given. Full stop. Period. Some more full stops to make my point understood but.....if the Oz winger hadn't (needlessly) stuck his hand out and looked like he tried to grab J Savea them we wouldn't be having the argument. But he did and "no try" is the result.
Yep. It's kind of the same if there is a kick and chase and one guy grabs the jersey of another who won't even get near the ball. Had no impact on the try being scored, but stupid illegal play. HP should cop crap for this not the refs.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Was pretty shit of the ground announcer to mention the unenviable 2 clean sweep series losses too as a record for Aus after praising ours.
Are you, in any way, surprised? You've still got people booing Quade Cooper for a 5 minute appearance.
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@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Was pretty shit of the ground announcer to mention the unenviable 2 clean sweep series losses too as a record for Aus after praising ours.
Are you, in any way, surprised? You've still got people booing Quade Cooper for a 5 minute appearance.
You'd expect there's a difference in professionalism.
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@Damo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
I think the try should have be given. Full stop. Period. Some more full stops to make my point understood but.....if the Oz winger hadn't (needlessly) stuck his hand out and looked like he tried to grab J Savea them we wouldn't be having the argument. But he did and "no try" is the result.
It was an act of real stupidity from DHP. I doubt Savea would have caught him, but DHP invited the TMO decision. He is the one that Cheika should be most pissed at.
I was sitting right on that sideline and Savea had 20 metres or so to catch him, he was almost up to him when he got bumped. Both disallowed tries could have gone either way but I was OK with both decisions but it could have easily gone the other way
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@NTA It certainly wasn't the whole ground like years past but you can't stop people doing shit like that. Reminds me of EPL football where the fans will even boo a player who used to play for cross town rivals, even if he no longer plays for them!
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Was pretty shit of the ground announcer to mention the unenviable 2 clean sweep series losses too as a record for Aus after praising ours.
Are you, in any way, surprised? You've still got people booing Quade Cooper for a 5 minute appearance.
You'd expect there's a difference in professionalism.
Like to think so. But, as with the media, there is an audience to play to.
I've reiterated this a few times, but the current state of AB fan behaviour in these cases, is probably down to the way the bandwagon Wallaby fans started going the fluffybunny when Eales' team was winning regularly. At that point, some of that rugby camaraderie stuff was probably lost.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Extremely classy press conference from Hansen, Chieka and Moore could learn a lot from it.
Understand what you mean about Cheika.
What bugged you about Moore? The honest assessment of his team's performance?
Or was it the bit where he was sticking up for the jersey and refused to get needled any further on it?
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
I was sitting right on that sideline and Savea had 20 metres or so to catch him, he was almost up to him when he got bumped. Both disallowed tries could have gone either way but I was OK with both decisions but it could have easily gone the other way
Was going to be a very close race. The replay only has a couple of steps before DHP got involved, so its hard to judge who was gaining or losing ground. I'd back Speight's pace from there, or an offload to DHP.
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@NTA Your winger should have had the discipline to leave Savea alone. Sometimes you get away with shit, other times not, that's rugby. The Coles one could have easily seen Foley in the bin and a penalty try awarded. BTW who signalled for the TMO on the aussie non-try? Was correct protocol followed?
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@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Was pretty shit of the ground announcer to mention the unenviable 2 clean sweep series losses too as a record for Aus after praising ours.
Are you, in any way, surprised? You've still got people booing Quade Cooper for a 5 minute appearance.
You'd expect there's a difference in professionalism.
Like to think so. But, as with the media, there is an audience to play to.
I've reiterated this a few times, but the current state of AB fan behaviour in these cases, is probably down to the way the bandwagon Wallaby fans started going the fluffybunny when Eales' team was winning regularly. At that point, some of that rugby camaraderie stuff was probably lost.
Our media is getting close to the asinine behaviour of yours during the Eales era too . I might think Cheika is a clown and point it out from time to time but that's a long way from a newspaper putting a cartoon in the paper pointing it out.
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@jegga said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Our media is getting close to the asinine behaviour of yours during the Eales era too .
Eales era?
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@Stockcar86 I think that is a pretty poor piece from NZH, unnecessary. Just watched the presser, Cheika was out of line during the question about his opinion about the 18, he insinuated that the ABs were the ones disrespecting the Wobs via the paper. As far as being disrespected by the media I would agree but it is no different from the treatment we get in Oz. Didn't the media promote NZ-Oz games a year or few ago by wheeling out the old sheep shagger joke?
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@antipodean Someone should email that to Mr Cheika.....
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@NTA Your winger should have had the discipline to leave Savea alone. Sometimes you get away with shit, other times not, that's rugby. The Coles one could have easily seen Foley in the bin and a penalty try awarded. BTW who signalled for the TMO on the aussie non-try? Was correct protocol followed?
I think it was the TMO interjecting.
As I (and others) said elsewhere: this situation gets focus because it is the difference of 5 points. If it happened somewhere else on the field, it wouldn't have gone to the TMO.
If Speight got tackled, and a ruck formed, then it had no scope to go to the TMO because it was more than one phase back.
To further compound how the Laws are funny here: if Foley runs back and tries a quick droppy, Nigel and the TMO don't get a say in anything. Happened later on where Sio fell over chasing back, and a try was scored. Cruden took that kick quick as fuck to eliminate any opportunity for a review. Smart play.
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Back to the actual game, we came out quick and dazzled with the first couple of tries. But we made lots of little mistakes and I felt like we didn't play direct enough, I don't remember many runs from Retallick or Whitelock. The aussies defended well, right up on the edge of the line and by trying to outflank them without setting the platform up front we played into their hands. Oz enjoyed long periods of possession, albeit for little gain, but they looked very good at times. They let us off the hook with mistakes too and that can't be afforded when you play us. In the end we had a few moments of brilliance that broke open the game, and the final 15 minutes showed how dangerous we are in any situation. It was a tough test and both teams should be able to take positives from it
