All Blacks 2025
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@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.
Thanks pal. How is Macca Springer going ?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.
Thanks pal. How is Macca Springer going ?
Marginally better than Jonah Lowe.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@mikedogz said in All Blacks 2025:
Scott Robertson changes mind on All Blacks eligibility, backs NZ Rugby's stance
Scott Robertson has thrown his support behind NZ Rugby's stance of not selecting players based overseas.
Cool. He can now concentrate on developing the talent available to him. Just hope he hasn't wasted a year.
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
If you look back at new coaches in their first year as head coach, they all selected players that weren’t there in year 2, 3 or 4.
And some of those had been selected for the first time or bought back just for that year and didn’t really feature again.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?
all the while sticking with players who have proven to not be what we need, instead of trying exciting young up and comers, along with sticking with poor tactics that didn't seem to showcase the bast talents of our players
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?
all the while sticking with players who have proven to not be what we need, instead of trying exciting young up and comers, along with sticking with poor tactics that didn't seem to showcase the bast talents of our players
I can understand the sticking with the old guard for year 1 while he gets his feet under the table (don't want to see the same for year 2) . Just don't get his Mo'unga/eligibility fight - at all
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You have to cut him some slack. It's not like he had time to watch trends in Test rugby to determine where the All Blacks needed to improve or develop their game. Nor did he have time to pick a form squad that would be capable of such a game plan.
So of course he has to rely on the
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Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
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@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
Any position in mind? Tough to think of any 10's that haven't improved except for Miller and Hohepa.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
Any position in mind? Tough to think of any 10's that haven't improved except for Miller and Hohepa.
More a lot have gone backwards or have stagnated. When you look at the ABs XV squad, it’s actually quite disappointing how many haven’t kicked on to another gear (Kirifi has been good but seems to be slipping as the season goes on). Holland, who was a big prospect last season, hasn’t showed the same level (aside from one game against the bottom team).
As for the up and coming ABs from last season. Aumua, Roigard, Ratima, Tosi, Laki, and Love haven’t exactly been setting the world on fire.
The only players that have noticeably improved imo has been Jordon (has played more like a fullback), Vai’i and Finau have got better.
I am critical of Robertson but I do feel a bit sorry for him. If Barrett continues to show good game management and McKenzie shits the bed in another semi/final, who is he supposed to select? ALB and Reiko are the only real options at 13 despite Reiko being bang average and ALB being injury prone and slow. Reece, despite being terrible last season, continues to outshine every winger through sheer enthusiasm. For all the criticism of Jordon at 15, what exactly has Love shown to provide any competition at all? Still don’t have a clear option for our backup hooker with Taylor still the obvious no. 1. Lock is ok but one injury there and we have no idea who the third lock would be. Literally only have one out and out six pushing for selection. We don’t have an 8 if Savea is sensibly selected at 7.
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@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
Any position in mind? Tough to think of any 10's that haven't improved except for Miller and Hohepa.
More a lot have gone backwards or have stagnated. When you look at the ABs XV squad, it’s actually quite disappointing how many haven’t kicked on to another gear (Kirifi has been good but seems to be slipping as the season goes on). Holland, who was a big prospect last season, hasn’t showed the same level (aside from one game against the bottom team).
As for the up and coming ABs from last season. Aumua, Roigard, Ratima, Tosi, Laki, and Love haven’t exactly been setting the world on fire.
The only players that have noticeably improved imo has been Jordon (has played more like a fullback), Vai’i and Finau have got better.
I am critical of Robertson but I do feel a bit sorry for him. If Barrett continues to show good game management and McKenzie shits the bed in another semi/final, who is he supposed to select? ALB and Reiko are the only real options at 13 despite Reiko being bang average and ALB being injury prone and slow. Reece, despite being terrible last season, continues to outshine every winger through sheer enthusiasm. For all the criticism of Jordon at 15, what exactly has Love shown to provide any competition at all? Still don’t have a clear option for our backup hooker with Taylor still the obvious no. 1. Lock is ok but one injury there and we have no idea who the third lock would be. Literally only have one out and out six pushing for selection. We don’t have an 8 if Savea is sensibly selected at 7.
Jesus mate, I'm as negative as the next guy, but Taylor, Taukei'aho, Aumua is hardly a weak trio of hookers.
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@KiwiInLondon we have better Depth at hooker this year to be fair, last year Razor plucked out Bell who was struggling to throw straight for the Crusaders. this year we have a fit Taukei'aho, Codie, Aumua and if need be the Crusaders breakout player Moananu
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@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
Any position in mind? Tough to think of any 10's that haven't improved except for Miller and Hohepa.
More a lot have gone backwards or have stagnated. When you look at the ABs XV squad, it’s actually quite disappointing how many haven’t kicked on to another gear (Kirifi has been good but seems to be slipping as the season goes on). Holland, who was a big prospect last season, hasn’t showed the same level (aside from one game against the bottom team).
As for the up and coming ABs from last season. Aumua, Roigard, Ratima, Tosi, Laki, and Love haven’t exactly been setting the world on fire.
The only players that have noticeably improved imo has been Jordon (has played more like a fullback), Vai’i and Finau have got better.
I am critical of Robertson but I do feel a bit sorry for him. If Barrett continues to show good game management and McKenzie shits the bed in another semi/final, who is he supposed to select? ALB and Reiko are the only real options at 13 despite Reiko being bang average and ALB being injury prone and slow. Reece, despite being terrible last season, continues to outshine every winger through sheer enthusiasm. For all the criticism of Jordon at 15, what exactly has Love shown to provide any competition at all? Still don’t have a clear option for our backup hooker with Taylor still the obvious no. 1. Lock is ok but one injury there and we have no idea who the third lock would be. Literally only have one out and out six pushing for selection. We don’t have an 8 if Savea is sensibly selected at 7.
It's a tough one because some of those players were given very little gametime for the All Blacks while still being part of the squad, so they had very limited opportunities to actually improve as players (and in some ways probably regressed). If Love had been given two or three runs on the wing/fullback for the All Blacks (or for Wellington) then maybe he'd be playing better now, compared to having sat on the sidelines and only playing four matches between Super Rugby finishing last year and starting up again this year.
*Love might have been injured last year, I can't remember, but substitute in any other younger player and it's the same stich.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Grooter Moananu strikes me as the hooker version of Kirifi - having an excellent SR season but possibly too small for Test rugby.
Hopefully I'm wrong. About both.
I don't really see how being short would be a massive problem for a hooker? Being light, yes, but he's heavier than plenty of other international hookers (including Codie Taylor, Peato Mauvaka).
