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  • MN5M Offline
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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

    For all of the criticism that comes Rieko Ioane's way, he sure as hell covers a lot of ground on defence. Yeah, I see the criticisms with him on attack and yes, probably attacks better on the wing, but he's an elite defender.

    He does work hard on defence I agree, but his decision making in complex scenarios isn't elite - I think his scramble is right up there, tho

    As has been pointed out, using him as a constant crash ball option also doesn't suit him.

    Doesn't Jordie or Havili or ALB, but the ABs have been doing it for years - you'd kinda have hoped Razor might have changed that.

    He's not Levi Aumua.

    Neither is Levi Aumua, this year!

    Good post.

    RI's D has come on in leaps and bounds and last year he put in some outstanding stuff. But apart from that, he hasn't really kicked on and we really need to explore options at 13. Robertson needs to be a bit bolder.

    Or develop a gameplan that permits Rieko to use his undoubted strengths. At the moment they may as well play another flanker. Using your centre to do almost nothing on attack but crashball off pop passes on the defensive line is fucking dumb.

    This may be the masterplan - Robertson is struggling to fit all his 6.5s into one loose trio, but he sees an opportunity at centre.

    6 Papalii, 7 Blackadder, 8 Jacobsen. Easy.

    Impact in a game is overrated

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    @sparky And Ozzie jounalists

    Jacques Nienaber's Galactico recruits are driving Leinster towards a fifth star

    Jacques Nienaber's Galactico recruits are driving Leinster towards a fifth star

    Jordie Barrett and RG Snyman have added seismic strength and skill to the province, and could be the key ingredients of their Champions Cup quest.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    @voodoo Multiple times for Leinster against Glasgow at the weekend.

    Is...is space created by making tackles? He's been doing it his whole career then.

    Watching Sparky's highlight reel makes me think Jordie is our future at #7!

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    @voodoo said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    @voodoo Multiple times for Leinster against Glasgow at the weekend.

    Is...is space created by making tackles? He's been doing it his whole career then.

    Watching Sparky's highlight reel makes me think Jordie is our future at #7!

    Nah, too big to make the ABs as a loose forward.

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    Some interesting stats for wingers in NZ. 1 stands out a lot more than the rest. Saw the breakdown had thrown this up and after the winger chat in here the other day I thought it was worth a share.

    PLAYER
    GAMES
    TRIES
    AVG DEF. BEATEN

    Caleb Tangitau
    7 Games
    6 Tries
    3.4 Def beaten

    Sevu Reece
    66 Games
    53 Tries
    3.1 Def beaten

    Kini Naholo
    32 Games
    19 Tries
    2.8 Def beaten

    Leroy Carter
    7 Games
    4 Tries
    3.4 Def beaten

    Mark Tele'a
    64 Games
    34 Tries
    4.7 Def beaten

    Emoni Narawa
    47 Games
    24 Tries
    2.6 Def Beaten

    Caleb Clarke
    63 Games
    30 Tries
    2.9 Def beaten

    Chay Fihaki
    38 Games
    9 Tries
    1.6 Def beaten

    Timoci Tavatavanawai
    43 Games
    14 Tries
    5.6 Def beaten

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    @Landers92 Sevu Reece Tarzan at Super, jane at ABs level. maybe I'm being too harsh 🤷‍♂️

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    @Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Landers92 Sevu Reece Tarzan at Super, jane at ABs level. maybe I'm being too harsh 🤷‍♂️

    I don't remember any Tarzans playing on the wing for the ABs but Jane was a gun at test level. Consistently better than Reece at any rate.

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    @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

    You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.

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    @MN5 I thought it was an excel spreadsheet

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

    You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.

    I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

    You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.

    I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.

    Thanks pal. How is Macca Springer going ?

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

    You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.

    I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.

    Thanks pal. How is Macca Springer going ?

    Marginally better than Jonah Lowe.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    @mikedogz said in All Blacks 2025:

    Mar 17  /  Sport

    Scott Robertson changes mind on All Blacks eligibility, backs NZ Rugby's stance

    Scott Robertson changes mind on All Blacks eligibility, backs NZ Rugby's stance

    Scott Robertson has thrown his support behind NZ Rugby's stance of not selecting players based overseas.

    Cool. He can now concentrate on developing the talent available to him. Just hope he hasn't wasted a year.

    What would wasting a year look like exactly?

    If you look back at new coaches in their first year as head coach, they all selected players that weren’t there in year 2, 3 or 4.

    And some of those had been selected for the first time or bought back just for that year and didn’t really feature again.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    What would wasting a year look like exactly?

    A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    What would wasting a year look like exactly?

    A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?

    all the while sticking with players who have proven to not be what we need, instead of trying exciting young up and comers, along with sticking with poor tactics that didn't seem to showcase the bast talents of our players

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    @canefan it makes sense he would do a shoddy job with the tools available when you see how much he wanted the old tools.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    What would wasting a year look like exactly?

    A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?

    all the while sticking with players who have proven to not be what we need, instead of trying exciting young up and comers, along with sticking with poor tactics that didn't seem to showcase the bast talents of our players

    I can understand the sticking with the old guard for year 1 while he gets his feet under the table (don't want to see the same for year 2) . Just don't get his Mo'unga/eligibility fight - at all

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    You have to cut him some slack. It's not like he had time to watch trends in Test rugby to determine where the All Blacks needed to improve or develop their game. Nor did he have time to pick a form squad that would be capable of such a game plan.

    So of course he has to rely on the Crusaders same donkeys.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #1577

    Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....

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