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  • Landers92L Do not disturb
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    Landers92
    wrote on last edited by Landers92
    #2570

    Moses Leo joining the Melbourne Storm a year earlier than anticipated. Will link up with them late this month.

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    Bringing Richie Mo must be costing the NZRU a lot of coin. Will it be worth it if Dmac is off the scene? Hopefully we get some quality 10s who step up next year in Super Rugby.

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    @Landers92 heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract
    Would have developed into a superb centre in the XVs game
    His top end pace would be better than many
    For me this is a genuine loss given the shortage of midfield backs in NZ

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    @canefan said in Exodus:

    @Mr-Fish said in Exodus:

    Contracts are pretty fluid nowadays. A lot likely rests on when Mo'unga returns to NZ.

    Pinning your hopes on a guy who may or may not come back to NZ and who has no guarantee of being the player he was when he left? I hope that isn't Razor's master plan

    and in fairness....even the player he was when he left wasn;t withing critique at international level

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    #2574

    @Kiwiwomble said in Exodus:

    @canefan said in Exodus:

    @Mr-Fish said in Exodus:

    Contracts are pretty fluid nowadays. A lot likely rests on when Mo'unga returns to NZ.

    Pinning your hopes on a guy who may or may not come back to NZ and who has no guarantee of being the player he was when he left? I hope that isn't Razor's master plan

    and in fairness....even the player he was when he left wasn;t withing critique at international level

    He was no DC. But neither is anyone else. If they overpay him to get him home, I don't like the message it sends. DMac might have just turned a corner in Dublin only for Razor to bench him for sub prime BB. Meanwhile there are young and up and coming guys in lots of positions that could do with more money to incentivise them to stay longer, and guys like Plummer who decide it's time to leave when they are still in their prime

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    of course, cant compare anyone to DC really...but those out there that think a 30 year old RM will come back and be DC level good after time overseas and solve all problems....are a worry

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    replied to Steven Harris on last edited by Bovidae
    #2576

    @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

    heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

    A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

    Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

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    canefan
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    @Kiwiwomble said in Exodus:

    of course, cant compare anyone to DC really...but those out there that think a 30 year old RM will come back and be DC level good after time overseas and solve all problems....are a worry

    Totally agree. The person we should be most worried about is Razor

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    @Bovidae said in Exodus:

    @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

    heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

    A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

    Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

    $75K? No wonder he's off

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    @booboo said in Exodus:

    @Bovidae said in Exodus:

    @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

    heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

    A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

    Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

    $75K? No wonder he's off

    even the 30th dude on the roster gets $130k

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    Nov 19, 2024  /  Sport

    Who are our greatest rugby exports to Europe? The top 10

    Who are our greatest rugby exports to Europe? The top 10

    RNZ looks at the most successful players to leave our shores.

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    that is a remarkably pedestrian list.

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    @mikedogz Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua don't appear to be in this guy's lists.

    They're probably the two that I would most have liked to keep.

    Based on these lists, anyway, we haven't been too badly hurt by the exodus to Europe. Some guys who turned out to be very handy, but not many superstars.

    Bundee was one who got away.

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    #2583

    I don't think they were added as they went to Samoa and Tonga at international level. These lists are more six nations teams.

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    Nov 12, 2024  /  Sport

    Who are our greatest rugby exports to Europe? Part One

    Who are our greatest rugby exports to Europe? Part One

    RNZ looks at the most successful players to leave our shores to play in Europe.

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Exodus:

    @booboo said in Exodus:

    @Bovidae said in Exodus:

    @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

    heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

    A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

    Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

    $75K? No wonder he's off

    even the 30th dude on the roster gets $130k

    Surely the lack of money on offer in rugby at the emerging level compared to that offered by NRL teams is a problem? It is draining away players who could be NPC/SR or potential late bloomers who might otherwise be potential future ABs

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @Chris-B said in Exodus:

    @mikedogz Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua don't appear to be in this guy's lists.

    They're probably the two that I would most have liked to keep.

    Based on these lists, anyway, we haven't been too badly hurt by the exodus to Europe. Some guys who turned out to be very handy, but not many superstars.

    Bundee was one who got away.

    Guys like Simon Mannix and Jimmy Gopperth come to mind, as journeymen who end up having long and productive careers in the UK

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  • TimT Away
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    Riccitelli to Montpellier according to Rugby Direct.

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    replied to canefan on last edited by
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    @canefan said in Exodus:

    @Chris-B said in Exodus:

    @mikedogz Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua don't appear to be in this guy's lists.

    They're probably the two that I would most have liked to keep.

    Based on these lists, anyway, we haven't been too badly hurt by the exodus to Europe. Some guys who turned out to be very handy, but not many superstars.

    Bundee was one who got away.

    Guys like Simon Mannix and Jimmy Gopperth come to mind, as journeymen who end up having long and productive careers in the UK

    And Nick Evans? Probably slightly more talented than a journeyman but always in DCs shadow

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    replied to Nevorian on last edited by
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    @Nevorian Should have been our starting 10 at the 2007 World Cup.

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    canefan
    replied to Nevorian on last edited by canefan
    #2589

    @Nevorian said in Exodus:

    @canefan said in Exodus:

    @Chris-B said in Exodus:

    @mikedogz Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua don't appear to be in this guy's lists.

    They're probably the two that I would most have liked to keep.

    Based on these lists, anyway, we haven't been too badly hurt by the exodus to Europe. Some guys who turned out to be very handy, but not many superstars.

    Bundee was one who got away.

    Guys like Simon Mannix and Jimmy Gopperth come to mind, as journeymen who end up having long and productive careers in the UK

    And Nick Evans? Probably slightly more talented than a journeyman but always in DCs shadow

    Peak Evans would walk into the squad now

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