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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
    #2578

    @Bovidae said in Exodus:

    @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

    heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

    A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

    Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

    $75K? No wonder he's off

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    replied to booboo on last edited by
    #2579

    @booboo said in Exodus:

    @Bovidae said in Exodus:

    @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

    heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

    A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

    Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

    $75K? No wonder he's off

    even the 30th dude on the roster gets $130k

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    mikedogz
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    #2580
    Nov 19, 2024  /  Sport

    Who are our greatest rugby exports to Europe? The top 10

    Who are our greatest rugby exports to Europe? The top 10

    RNZ looks at the most successful players to leave our shores.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    mariner4life
    wrote on last edited by
    #2581

    that is a remarkably pedestrian list.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to mikedogz on last edited by
    #2582

    @mikedogz Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua don't appear to be in this guy's lists.

    They're probably the two that I would most have liked to keep.

    Based on these lists, anyway, we haven't been too badly hurt by the exodus to Europe. Some guys who turned out to be very handy, but not many superstars.

    Bundee was one who got away.

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  • mikedogzM Online
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    mikedogz
    wrote on last edited by mikedogz
    #2583

    I don't think they were added as they went to Samoa and Tonga at international level. These lists are more six nations teams.

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    Nov 12, 2024  /  Sport

    Who are our greatest rugby exports to Europe? Part One

    Who are our greatest rugby exports to Europe? Part One

    RNZ looks at the most successful players to leave our shores to play in Europe.

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #2584

    @mariner4life said in Exodus:

    @booboo said in Exodus:

    @Bovidae said in Exodus:

    @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

    heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

    A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

    Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

    $75K? No wonder he's off

    even the 30th dude on the roster gets $130k

    Surely the lack of money on offer in rugby at the emerging level compared to that offered by NRL teams is a problem? It is draining away players who could be NPC/SR or potential late bloomers who might otherwise be potential future ABs

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #2585

    @Chris-B said in Exodus:

    @mikedogz Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua don't appear to be in this guy's lists.

    They're probably the two that I would most have liked to keep.

    Based on these lists, anyway, we haven't been too badly hurt by the exodus to Europe. Some guys who turned out to be very handy, but not many superstars.

    Bundee was one who got away.

    Guys like Simon Mannix and Jimmy Gopperth come to mind, as journeymen who end up having long and productive careers in the UK

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #2586

    Riccitelli to Montpellier according to Rugby Direct.

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    Nevorian
    replied to canefan on last edited by
    #2587

    @canefan said in Exodus:

    @Chris-B said in Exodus:

    @mikedogz Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua don't appear to be in this guy's lists.

    They're probably the two that I would most have liked to keep.

    Based on these lists, anyway, we haven't been too badly hurt by the exodus to Europe. Some guys who turned out to be very handy, but not many superstars.

    Bundee was one who got away.

    Guys like Simon Mannix and Jimmy Gopperth come to mind, as journeymen who end up having long and productive careers in the UK

    And Nick Evans? Probably slightly more talented than a journeyman but always in DCs shadow

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    replied to Nevorian on last edited by
    #2588

    @Nevorian Should have been our starting 10 at the 2007 World Cup.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    replied to Nevorian on last edited by canefan
    #2589

    @Nevorian said in Exodus:

    @canefan said in Exodus:

    @Chris-B said in Exodus:

    @mikedogz Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua don't appear to be in this guy's lists.

    They're probably the two that I would most have liked to keep.

    Based on these lists, anyway, we haven't been too badly hurt by the exodus to Europe. Some guys who turned out to be very handy, but not many superstars.

    Bundee was one who got away.

    Guys like Simon Mannix and Jimmy Gopperth come to mind, as journeymen who end up having long and productive careers in the UK

    And Nick Evans? Probably slightly more talented than a journeyman but always in DCs shadow

    Peak Evans would walk into the squad now

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    nostrildamus
    replied to Nevorian on last edited by nostrildamus
    #2590

    @Nevorian said in Exodus:

    Who wouldn't have been in DC's shadow?

    I understand Evans was highly rated in Europe so
    "slightly more talented than a journeyman" seems a little harsh.

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  • S Offline
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    SBW1
    wrote on last edited by
    #2591

    What about the present crop, because there are a tonne of guys who have gone over in the last few years, Jack Goodhue, Lam many names not on that list. An interesting thing is a couple of Kiwis who went over to rep for England like Will Heinze and Brad Shields have returned home at or near the end of their careers, wonder if we see a few more doing that.

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    replied to SBW1 on last edited by
    #2592

    @SBW1 said in Exodus:

    What about the present crop, because there are a tonne of guys who have gone over in the last few years, Jack Goodhue, Lam many names not on that list. An interesting thing is a couple of Kiwis who went over to rep for England like Will Heinze and Brad Shields have returned home at or near the end of their careers, wonder if we see a few more doing that.

    at least Shields seemed to have maintained a consistent level of ball-handling skills.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #2593

    Rua Tipoki and Doug Howlett (Munster). Brad Thorn and Isa Nacewa (Leinster).

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  • S Offline
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    SBW1
    wrote on last edited by
    #2594

    What would be interesting is an updated list on overseas based players, who hypothetically could play for the Abs if the rules changed.

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  • M Offline
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    Mr Fish
    wrote on last edited by
    #2595

    Off the top of my head, only including past All Blacks...

    PR - Laulala, Tu'inukuafe
    HK - N/A
    LK - Hemopo, Retallick
    LF - Frizell, Ioane, Cane, Sowakula, Whitelock
    HB - Smith, Perenara, Weber, Kerr-Barlow
    FH - Mo'unga
    CT - Laumape, Goodhue, Saili, Ngatai
    OB - Bridge, Fainga'anuku

    There's maybe five or six guys there that would definitely shore up the current squad but only a few who'd be in contention for starting - Smith, Mo'unga, Laumape, Fainga'anuku?

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    wrote on last edited by Tim
    #2596

    Afoa and Faumuina are the obvious choices for props.

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #2597

    Howlett, Piutau, Luatua, Vito, Thorn, Retallick, Ioane, Evans, Nacewa, Fainga'anuku all good players

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