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  • broughieB Offline
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    #133

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cyclops" data-cid="597462" data-time="1468712354">
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    <p>I feel bad saying this, but Toddy coaches like he plays - workmanlike, honest and loyal with a fair amount of leadership but lacking that extra 10-15% that just makes the difference.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Took a squad that was just about the best in the competition and got just about the best results - but couldn't convert those key moments (i.e. finals) that make the difference between good and great.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Should have read the thread before posting.</p>

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    #134

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cantab79" data-cid="597505" data-time="1468718115">
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    <p>Not sure why people are attacking Todd Blackadder's ability as a player? I can only assume there are a few former All Black captains who frequent this forum. I'd have killed to have had Blackadder's Rugby career, and certainly wouldn't describe him as a "plodder".</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>When he was playing there were plenty of people outside of Canterbury asking if this is the best we have?  Impressive heart but I think there mainly because Canterbury was so good.</p>

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    #135

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="597488" data-time="1468715415"><p>2011 was easily his best year and I think he was probably a bit robbed by the earthquake.</p></blockquote><br>Yeah the travel killed them in the end. Easily the best team all season. If the Reds didn't have Quade that year, it was all Crusaders.

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  • TimT Away
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    #136

    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://gfycat.com/ShockingPlumpDuck'>https://gfycat.com/ShockingPlumpDuck</a></p>

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    #137

    Heard Blackadder on radio sport this morning.<br><br>
    Apparently we can't get a flight to South Africa until Tuesday. <br><br>
    Astounding lack of planning and foresite from crusaders management. As I would expect

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  • Cantab79C Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="597533" data-time="1468721769">
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    <p>Heard Blackadder on radio sport this morning.<br><br>
    Apparently we can't get a flight to South Africa until Tuesday.<br><br>
    Astounding lack of planning and foresite from crusaders management. As I would expect</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I heard we're on the same flight as the Chiefs. So they're management is incompetent as well?</p>

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  • canefanC Online
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    #139

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cantab79" data-cid="597536" data-time="1468722549"><p>
    I heard we're on the same flight as the Chiefs. So they're management is incompetent as well?</p></blockquote>Whatever fits your narrative

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    #140

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cantab79" data-cid="597536" data-time="1468722549"><p>
    I heard we're on the same flight as the Chiefs. So they're management is incompetent as well?</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Chiefs are playing at sea level so acclimatising isn't such an issue <br><br>
    Also I think the Chiefs management have proven themselves consistently over the last few years, ours haven't.

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  • ToddyT Online
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    Didnt the Chief's charter a flight from Dunedin? There's a photo on Facebook and I can't see any Crusaders on the flight (it's a shit photo though)

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #142

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cantab79" data-cid="597505" data-time="1468718115">
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    <p>Not sure why people are attacking Todd Blackadder's ability as a player? I can only assume there are a few former All Black captains who frequent this forum. I'd have killed to have had Blackadder's Rugby career, and certainly wouldn't describe him as a "plodder".</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I expect his own playing style will have some bearing on how he coaches? </p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    #143

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cantab79" data-cid="597505" data-time="1468718115">
    <div>
    <p>Not sure why people are attacking Todd Blackadder's ability as a player? I can only assume there are a few former All Black captains who frequent this forum. I'd have killed to have had Blackadder's Rugby career, and certainly wouldn't describe him as a "plodder".</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>A cantab jumping to the defence of one of his favourite sons. There's a first on this forum.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>At AB level Blackadder was a plodder, too small for lock not dynamic enough for 6/8. Gut and effort only get some players so far.</p>

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  • mimicM Offline
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    #144

    <p>i thought blackadder was picked because he was a good captain? </p>
    <p>mind you thats probably why thorne was picked as well.. </p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mimic" data-cid="597553" data-time="1468723931">
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    <p>i thought blackadder was picked because he was a good captain? </p>
    <p>mind you thats probably why thorne was picked as well.. </p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Enough people who know far more than me said Thorne excelled at the shit work and I remember him being good at the back of the lineout. Had about as much impact with ball in hand as a fly hitting a windshield though which is probably why he was so polarizing.....didn't help that other loosies Dallaglio/Finegan/Venter etc were so good at trampling blokes underfoot.</p>

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    #146

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="broughie" data-cid="597502" data-time="1468717679">
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    <p>Todd Blackadder was a plodder as a rugby player.  No understanding of flare.</p>
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    <p>Are you saying he is hopeless when lost at sea? Or only wears bootleg?</p>

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    #147

    <p>Todd Blackadder: the numbers (don't mean that much IMO)</p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82068078/andrew-voerman-numbers-suggest-crusaders-coach-todd-blackadder-gets-a-rough-deal'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82068078/andrew-voerman-numbers-suggest-crusaders-coach-todd-blackadder-gets-a-rough-deal</a></p>

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    #148

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Toddy" data-cid="597548" data-time="1468723617"><p>
    Didnt the Chief's charter a flight from Dunedin? There's a photo on Facebook and I can't see any Crusaders on the flight (it's a shit photo though)</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Nope we are flying out Tuesday, according to what I heard on radio sport.

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  • TimT Away
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    #149

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cantab79" data-cid="597536" data-time="1468722549">
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    <p>I heard we're on the same flight as the Chiefs. So they're management is incompetent as well?</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Not unless the Crusaders are flying on Monday too.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82168514/seta-tamanivalu-out-of-chiefs-super-rugby-quarterfinal-against-stormers'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82168514/seta-tamanivalu-out-of-chiefs-super-rugby-quarterfinal-against-stormers</a></p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>After flying from Dunedin to Auckland on Sunday morning, the Chiefs would have ideally headed to Sydney on Sunday night and flew out from there Monday morning, however, with no accommodation available in Sydney, they are staying the night in Auckland, walking across to the airport at 3am and flying out at 6am.</p>
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    #150

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="597547" data-time="1468723441">
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    <p>Chiefs are playing at sea level so acclimatising isn't such an issue<br><br>
    Also I think the Chiefs management have proven themselves consistently over the last few years, ours haven't.</p>
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    <p>They were basically saying on the radio that SANZAR/NZRU sorts out the flights. Whoever was playing in South Africa would be on that flight.</p>

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    #151

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="597550" data-time="1468723727"><p>
    A cantab jumping to the defence of one of his favourite sons. There's a first on this forum.<br><br>
    At AB level Blackadder was a plodder, too small for lock not dynamic enough for 6/8. Gut and effort only get some players so far.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Wait till Nepia gets here, then we have the same thread we've had 100 times before<br><br>
    As you say Blackadder was a great super rugby player. Too small for a test match lock and not dynamic enough for 6.<br><br>
    Scott Barrett is the same in my opinion

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  • Canes4lifeC Offline
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    #152

    <p>Canes were just far too good and look like a team determined to break their title drought. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The Canes have the steel about them on defense. Guys like Fifita, Fatialofa and Savea are churning out performances similar to that of the infamous Bouncer trio of So'oialo, Collins and Masoe. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Boyd and Plumtree have done wonders for the Canes. I did the maths and they have won something like 27 and lost only 7 since taking over. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If Coles, Ardie Savea and Barrett stay fit through the playoffs it's going to be tough for any team to take us out.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The only team that will threaten us from here are the Highlanders IMO with the Smith's superb under pressure.</p>

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