Crusaders vs Canes
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<p>Not sure why people are attacking Todd Blackadder's ability as a player? I can only assume there are a few former All Black captains who frequent this forum. I'd have killed to have had Blackadder's Rugby career, and certainly wouldn't describe him as a "plodder".</p>
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<p>Not sure why people are attacking Todd Blackadder's ability as a player? I can only assume there are a few former All Black captains who frequent this forum. I'd have killed to have had Blackadder's Rugby career, and certainly wouldn't describe him as a "plodder".</p>
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<p>A cantab jumping to the defence of one of his favourite sons. There's a first on this forum.</p>
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<p>At AB level Blackadder was a plodder, too small for lock not dynamic enough for 6/8. Gut and effort only get some players so far.</p> -
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<p>i thought blackadder was picked because he was a good captain? </p>
<p>mind you thats probably why thorne was picked as well.. </p>
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<p>Enough people who know far more than me said Thorne excelled at the shit work and I remember him being good at the back of the lineout. Had about as much impact with ball in hand as a fly hitting a windshield though which is probably why he was so polarizing.....didn't help that other loosies Dallaglio/Finegan/Venter etc were so good at trampling blokes underfoot.</p> -
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<p>Todd Blackadder was a plodder as a rugby player. No understanding of flare.</p>
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<p>Are you saying he is hopeless when lost at sea? Or only wears bootleg?</p> -
<p>Todd Blackadder: the numbers (don't mean that much IMO)</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82068078/andrew-voerman-numbers-suggest-crusaders-coach-todd-blackadder-gets-a-rough-deal'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82068078/andrew-voerman-numbers-suggest-crusaders-coach-todd-blackadder-gets-a-rough-deal</a></p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Toddy" data-cid="597548" data-time="1468723617"><p>
Didnt the Chief's charter a flight from Dunedin? There's a photo on Facebook and I can't see any Crusaders on the flight (it's a shit photo though)</p></blockquote>
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<p>I heard we're on the same flight as the Chiefs. So they're management is incompetent as well?</p>
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<p>Not unless the Crusaders are flying on Monday too.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82168514/seta-tamanivalu-out-of-chiefs-super-rugby-quarterfinal-against-stormers'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82168514/seta-tamanivalu-out-of-chiefs-super-rugby-quarterfinal-against-stormers</a></p>
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<p>After flying from Dunedin to Auckland on Sunday morning, the Chiefs would have ideally headed to Sydney on Sunday night and flew out from there Monday morning, however, with no accommodation available in Sydney, they are staying the night in Auckland, walking across to the airport at 3am and flying out at 6am.</p>
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<p>Chiefs are playing at sea level so acclimatising isn't such an issue<br><br>
Also I think the Chiefs management have proven themselves consistently over the last few years, ours haven't.</p>
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<p>They were basically saying on the radio that SANZAR/NZRU sorts out the flights. Whoever was playing in South Africa would be on that flight.</p> -
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A cantab jumping to the defence of one of his favourite sons. There's a first on this forum.<br><br>
At AB level Blackadder was a plodder, too small for lock not dynamic enough for 6/8. Gut and effort only get some players so far.</p></blockquote>
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Wait till Nepia gets here, then we have the same thread we've had 100 times before<br><br>
As you say Blackadder was a great super rugby player. Too small for a test match lock and not dynamic enough for 6.<br><br>
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<p>Canes were just far too good and look like a team determined to break their title drought. </p>
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<p>The Canes have the steel about them on defense. Guys like Fifita, Fatialofa and Savea are churning out performances similar to that of the infamous Bouncer trio of So'oialo, Collins and Masoe. </p>
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<p>Boyd and Plumtree have done wonders for the Canes. I did the maths and they have won something like 27 and lost only 7 since taking over. </p>
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<p>If Coles, Ardie Savea and Barrett stay fit through the playoffs it's going to be tough for any team to take us out.</p>
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<p>The only team that will threaten us from here are the Highlanders IMO with the Smith's superb under pressure.</p> -
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<p>Wait till Nepia gets here, then we have the same thread we've had 100 times before<br><br>
As you say Blackadder was a great super rugby player. Too small for a test match lock and not dynamic enough for 6.<br><br>
Scott Barrett is the same in my opinion</p>
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<p>I don't recall saying Blackadder was a great super player. I'll save Nepia time and have a go at Caleb Ralph before he gets here.</p>
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<p>Barrett has one thing Blackadder doesn't. The surname Barrett. If the wankfest about his younger brother being a midfield maestro is any indication Scott Barrett is more than likely to go down in history as the greatest AB lock ever.</p> -
<p>Fifita outplayed Romano and Barrett with ease last night. He has a massive future and is an All Black in the making for sure. I wasn't impressed by Barrett. I thought Fatialofa also played out of his skin and is one to keep an eye on.</p>
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<p>The Crusader's did miss Whitelock and his experience last night but that is no excuse.</p> -
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<p>Fifita outplayed Romano and Barrett with ease last night. He has a massive future and is an All Black in the making for sure. I wasn't impressed by Barrett. I thought Fatialofa also played out of his skin and is one to keep an eye on.</p>
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<p>The Crusader's did miss Whitelock and his experience last night but that is no excuse.</p>
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<p>I know he has the height but does he have enough weight to be a lock. 6 or 8 or 7 (whatever a 7 is nowadays).</p> -
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<p>I know he has the height but does he have enough weight to be a lock. 6 or 8 or 7 (whatever a 7 is nowadays).</p>
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<p>If anyone can make a bloke taller on here it's Canes4Life. Not sure what he's like with weight yet though.</p> -
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<p>If anyone can make a bloke taller on here it's Canes4Life. Not sure what he's like with weight yet though.</p>
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<p>Wiki says 107kgs for Fifita. He certainly plays above his weight.</p> -
Pretty incredible season for the Canes. After losing Nonu and Smith and then having no Broadhurst and NMS I thought they were rooted. Respect to Boyd and the coaching staff for the amazing work they've done. Not sure what the finals hold but tbh this season has exceeded my wildest expectations.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="597568" data-time="1468725893">
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<p>Wait till Nepia gets here, then we have the same thread we've had 100 times before<br><br>
As you say Blackadder was a great super rugby player. Too small for a test match lock and not dynamic enough for 6.<br><br>
Scott Barrett is the same in my opinion</p>
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<p>Clearly I don't even have to turn up for you guys to have the same thread you always have.</p>
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<p>At any rate, I've hardly been in a shitfight with a Cantab since the continued non selection of Andy Ellis in the ABs since 2011 has generally kept Canerbry rocking in the corner and only making infrequent visits to the Fern and Shark seems to have never recovered from the second Chiefs Super win.</p>
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<p>I don't recall saying Blackadder was a great super player. I'll save Nepia time and have a go at Caleb Ralph before he gets here.</p>
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<p>TBF, I was defending Ralph the other day but Sammy seems to be like the media these days, facts are no barrier in the quest for clicks. ;)</p>