14 in a row!
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Thought this thread needs a quick recycle. Maybe we can hope for the jinx effect.
Poms one win away from equalling the record. Two from beating it.
Interesting all of a sudden how the Mighty Moufflon's efforts seem more meritorious than they did last year ...
To be fair it's a fair effort. Only really Uruguay and Fiji outside of 6 Nations, SA and Aus.
I don't buy into the argument that they haven't played us. We didn't play the number one ranked team either.
Having said that "Go Scotland!"
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@booboo said in One in a row .... seventeen in a row ...:
Thought this thread needs a quick recycle. Maybe we can hope for the jinx effect.
Poms one win away from equalling the record. Two from beating it.
Interesting all of a sudden how the Mighty Moufflon's efforts seem more meritorious than they did last year ...
To be fair it's a fair effort. Only really Uruguay and Fiji outside of 6 Nations, SA and Aus.
I don't buy into the argument that they haven't played us. We didn't play the number one ranked team either.
Having said that "Go Scotland!"
If Scotland ever needed extra support to crank up a gear or two they will have a fair bit of it next week.
Cheapest resale tickets at the moment are around £350!
I'm wondering how dangerous it will be to don the kilt and wander down to the local to watch this one.
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@Crucial said in One in a row .... seventeen in a row ...:
@booboo said in One in a row .... seventeen in a row ...:
Thought this thread needs a quick recycle. Maybe we can hope for the jinx effect.
Poms one win away from equalling the record. Two from beating it.
Interesting all of a sudden how the Mighty Moufflon's efforts seem more meritorious than they did last year ...
To be fair it's a fair effort. Only really Uruguay and Fiji outside of 6 Nations, SA and Aus.
I don't buy into the argument that they haven't played us. We didn't play the number one ranked team either.
Having said that "Go Scotland!"
If Scotland ever needed extra support to crank up a gear or two they will have a fair bit of it next week.
Cheapest resale tickets at the moment are around £350!
I'm wondering how dangerous it will be to don the kilt and wander down to the local to watch this one.
I don't know, drinking to forget whilst wearing a plaid skirt sounds risky.
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Now they've equaled our streak, it is possible to compare the world ranking of the opposition at the time of each game, to determine whose streak is "better".
The sum world ranking of the 18 teams we defeated is 120. England's is 131.
So our streak was vs significantly better opposition on average - as I tell my dickhead pom mates who keep bringing up the fact we played Namibia/Georgia during ours, and conveniently forgetting they played Uruguay during theirs.
England's winning streak (October 15, 2015 to March 11, 2017)
1 - Uruguay (19) 60-3 (RWC)
2 - Scotland (9) 15-9
3 - Italy (12) 40-9
4 - Ireland (8) 21-10
5 - Wales (4) 25-21
6 - France (8) 31-21
7 - Wales (5) 27-13
8 - Australia (2) 39-28
9 - Australia (2) 23-7
10 - Australia (4) 44-40
11 - South Africa (4) 37-21
12 - Fiji (10) 58-15
13 - Argentina (9) 27-14
14 - Australia (3) 37-21
15 - France (8) 19-16
16 - Wales (5) 21-16
17 - Italy (14) 36-15
18 - Scotland (5) 61-21Sum 131.
All Blacks' winning streak (August 15, 2015 to November 4, 2016)
1 - Australia (3) 41-13
2 - Argentina (8) 26-16 (RWC)
3 - Namibia (20) 58-14 (RWC)
4 - Georgia (15) 43-10 (RWC)
5 - Tonga (12) 47-9 (RWC)
6 - France (7) 62-13 (RWC)
7 - South Africa (3) 20-18 (RWC)
8 - Australia (2) 34-17 (RWC)
9 - Wales (6) 39-21
10 - Wales (6) 36-22
11 - Wales (6) 46-6
12 - Australia (4) 42-8
13 - Australia (4) 29-9
14 - Argentina (7) 57-22
15 - South Africa (4) 41-13
16 - Argentina (7) 36-17
17 - South Africa (3) 57-15
18 - Australia (3) 37-10Sum 120.
Rugby: All Blacks v England - Which winning streak is better?
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In other (rather embarrassing) news, South Africa is now ranked 7th, the lowest since the ranking system was implemented in 03.
Coetzee is bullish on the Boks chances since this year, he's had time to plan where they are going to be training, and how their bags are being transported:
"I'm done with the planning. The logistical planning of where we're flying with which airlines we're using and where we're staying ... that's done," Coetzee said, adding that he even knows where the Boks are training on their European tour in November.
I think that is the job description of a logistics manager, but that's just me..
Interesting thing is that the RWC19 draw is taking place on 10 May, before the Boks have had a chance to show the world how well Coetzee's logistics planning has revolutionised his teams play. This means we're effectively locked ourselves into the pool of death. Though with the aggressive transformation targets set out by Razzmatazz we're probably not going to be a force anyways:
Rugby
The document forecasts that 60% of full-time staff will be black South Africans by 2018.
The document forecasts that 45% of national players (male) will be black South Africans by 2018.
The document forecasts that 80% of national players (female) will be black South Africans by 2018.
The document forecasts that 60% of nationally accredited coaches will be black South Africans by 2018.Athletics
ASA will have to assign 10% more African women to its executive board committees within the next year.
The document forecasts that 84% of males will be black South Africans by 2018.
The document forecasts that 40% of females will be black South Africans by 2018.
The document forecasts that 100% of coaches will be black South Africans by 2018.
The document forecasts that 84% of physiotherapists will be black South Africans by 2018.Soccer
The sports ministry actually expects black representation to decrease in South African football by 2018 with full time black staff members decreasing from 94% in 2014 to 70% by December 2018.
Likewise it expects a drop from 88% in 2014 to 75% of Black African players which will be made up for by a 13% increase in “generic black” players.
There is however expected to be a 5% increase across the board in female black players at the national level.Cricket
In September 2016, the CSA declared that with immediate effect the national team to play an average minimum of 54% black players and average minimum of 18% black African players over the season.
The targets will be an average of the cumulative representation across all three formats in a season.
The document forecasts that 60% of males will be generic black South Africans by 2019.
It also notes that that 60% of female cricket players will be generic black South Africans by 2019.
The document has also forecast that 80% of South African umpires will be black by 2020.Netball
The document forecasts that 85% of full-time staff will be black South Africans by 2018.
It forecasta that 95% of male netball players will be black by 2018.
It forecasts that 71% of male netball players will be black by 2018.
It has also forecast that 80% of coaches will be black by 2018.
In order to reach a number of those targets serious changes will need to be made, and you can’t help but feel that various sporting codes are really going to struggle.Whether or not Afriforum have any success in their endeavours remains to be seen, but interesting times ahead for South African sport.
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@RaGe_X And to think - with Argentina playing a Lions-less-England, and SA playing France... it's not unlikely you could drop to 9th.
Too late for the WC draw, luckily - but still... not cool.
It's actually not too difficult to come up with a reasonably-realistic scenario of results where SA sinks to 10th... which would be fucking sad for the entire "rugby world". -
@Kruse said in One in a row .... seventeen in a row ...:
@RaGe_X And to think - with Argentina playing a Lions-less-England, and SA playing France... it's not unlikely you could drop to 9th.
Too late for the WC draw, luckily - but still... not cool.
It's actually not too difficult to come up with a reasonably-realistic scenario of results where SA sinks to 10th... which would be fucking sad for the entire "rugby world".It's getting to the point I would support playing a rebel Springbok side. No place for racism in sport.
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@TeWaio said in One in a row .... seventeen in a row ...:
If we're to go purely by the world rankings then you would also have to consider the rankings of both England and NZ and then takes those rankings away to get a net score.
In which case:-
Now they've equaled our streak, it is possible to compare the world ranking of the opposition at the time of each game, to determine whose streak is "better".
The sum world ranking of the 18 teams we defeated is 120. England's is 131.
So our streak was vs significantly better opposition on average - as I tell my dickhead pom mates who keep bringing up the fact we played Namibia/Georgia during ours, and conveniently forgetting they played Uruguay during theirs.
England's winning streak (October 15, 2015 to March 11, 2017) England ranking in bold
1 - Uruguay (19) 60-3 (RWC) 8
2 - Scotland (9) 15-9 8
3 - Italy (12) 40-9 6
4 - Ireland (8) 21-10 6
5 - Wales (4) 25-21 6
6 - France (8) 31-21 4
7 - Wales (5) 27-13 2
8 - Australia (2) 39-28 2
9 - Australia (2) 23-7 2
10 - Australia (4) 44-40 2
11 - South Africa (4) 37-21 2
12 - Fiji (10) 58-15 2
13 - Argentina (9) 27-14 2
14 - Australia (3) 37-21 2
15 - France (8) 19-16 2
16 - Wales (5) 21-16 2
17 - Italy (14) 36-15 2
18 - Scotland (5) 61-21 2 Total 62Sum 131. - 62 = net score 69
All Blacks' winning streak (August 15, 2015 to November 4, 2016) NZ No 1 all the way through so 18 in total
1 - Australia (3) 41-13
2 - Argentina (8) 26-16 (RWC)
3 - Namibia (20) 58-14 (RWC)
4 - Georgia (15) 43-10 (RWC)
5 - Tonga (12) 47-9 (RWC)
6 - France (7) 62-13 (RWC)
7 - South Africa (3) 20-18 (RWC)
8 - Australia (2) 34-17 (RWC)
9 - Wales (6) 39-21
10 - Wales (6) 36-22
11 - Wales (6) 46-6
12 - Australia (4) 42-8
13 - Australia (4) 29-9
14 - Argentina (7) 57-22
15 - South Africa (4) 41-13
16 - Argentina (7) 36-17
17 - South Africa (3) 57-15
18 - Australia (3) 37-10Sum 120.- 18 = 102
Rugby: All Blacks v England - Which winning streak is better?
Or in other words, such comparisons are pretty meaningless.
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@Catogrande yep, we only played teams ranked lower than us, so that alone made our run easier
Best outcome, IMO is if Ireland roll England this week, they sit on 18 with us, Ireland get a boost as giant killers again, NZ an England continue to roll on winning until they meet sometime in 2025 to win the best in the universe title.
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This 17 game streak is arguably more impressive than those ones
Match Score Date Location SAF v AUS 61-22 Sat, 23 Aug 1997 Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria SAF v ITA 62-31 Sat, 08 Nov 1997 Bologna SAF v FRA 36-32 Sat, 15 Nov 1997 Lyon SAF v FRA 52-10 Sat, 22 Nov 1997 Parc des Princes, Paris SAF v ENG 29-11 Sat, 29 Nov 1997 Twickenham, London SAF v SCO 68-10 Sat, 06 Dec 1997 Murrayfield, Edinburgh SAF v IRE 37-13 Sat, 13 Jun 1998 Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein SAF v IRE 33-0 Sat, 20 Jun 1998 Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria SAF v WAL 96-13 Sat, 27 Jun 1998 Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria SAF v ENG 18-0 Sat, 04 Jul 1998 Newlands, Cape Town SAF v AUS 14-13 Sat, 18 Jul 1998 Subiaco Oval, Perth_AUS SAF v NZL 13-3 Sat, 25 Jul 1998 Athletic Park, Wellington SAF v NZL 24-23 Sat, 15 Aug 1998 Kings Park Stadium, Durban SAF v AUS 29-15 Sat, 22 Aug 1998 Ellis Park, Johannesburg SAF v WAL 28-20 Sat, 14 Nov 1998 Wembley Stadium, London SAF v SCO 35-10 Sat, 21 Nov 1998 Murrayfield, Edinburgh SAF v IRE 27-13 Sat, 28 Nov 1998 Lansdowne Rd, Dublin -
