Super Rugby - Who's it going to be?
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I've made my bet at the TAB. I have slapped down $25 on the chiefs to win. I was told if I wait until after this round the odds will go down. Part of my bet is based on Liam<br>Messam playing.<br><br>I realise that Liam had mixed results as an All Black especially when he first started as an AB. But he is a very fine Super Rugby player and he really buys into Chiefs Mana.<br><br>He will be worth his weight in gold in the dressing room. Heck, if Liam Messam looked me in the face and told me to play with pride for the Chiefs whanau it would mean something<br>to me. There was an awesome little snippet of him before a playoff match started a few years ago. I wish I had it on tape. He looked fired up and said a few key words in Te Reo<br>admist getting his general point across in everyday english. It worked well. He plays with pride and I think my $25 could pay if he plays. Which I concede is an if.<br><br>This may be a bit far fetched but he has been one of the more consistent Chiefs I have seen play out of any chiefs team.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="596106" data-time="1468360278"><p>
The Lions are guaranteed a home QF but could miss out on a home SF and final if they don't win, as they<strong> could fall to 3rd</strong> (PD is good though). It's a calculated risk but it has opened the door for a NZ team to secure homefield advantage during the playoffs.<br><br></p></blockquote>
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No they can't. They'd be at worst 2nd. Because Conferences. It's not points. Brumbies/Tahs and Stormers can't get past them. If they win their QF they host an SF. -
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<p>No they can't. They'd be at worst 2nd. Because Conferences. It's not points. Brumbies/Tahs and Stormers can't get past them. If they win their QF they host an SF.</p>
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<p>Yes, I realised my mistake yesterday and was meaning to correct it.</p>
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<p>The Lions are either #1 or #2. The Stormers are set as #3 and the Brumbies or Tahs are #4. Any of the NZ teams can finish 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th or 7th. The Sharks or Bulls will be #8.</p> -
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82168543/sixtry-sharks-book-playoff-place'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82168543/sixtry-sharks-book-playoff-place</a></p>
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<p>The Sharks will be seeded eighth for the quarterfinals, which means they will face the team that finishes top in the overall standings, either compatriots the Lions or the Chiefs. Their opponents will be decided on Saturday.</p>
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<p>Seriously, who are the dumb motherfuckers who write/check/publish this shit?</p>
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<p>Not only apparently a total lack of understanding of basic mathematics, but the permutations have been discussed ad nauseum for several weeks.</p>
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So Lions could get a BP and finish on same as canes, they will have same wins, so would that then go to the match the canes hammered them in? <br><br>
So the table topping brumbies(surely) and stormers both finish with less points than Chiefs, highlanders and crusaders.... -
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<p>So Lions could get a BP and finish on same as canes, they will have same wins, so would that then go to the match the canes hammered them in?<br><br>
So the table topping brumbies(surely) and stormers both finish with less points than Chiefs, highlanders and crusaders....</p>
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<p>It goes to points difference I think and tthe Lions have a better PD than the 'canes.</p> -
<p>Lions/Canes vs Sharks</p>
<p>Lions/Canes vs Saders</p>
<p>Stormers vs Chiefs</p>
<p>Brumbies/Tahs vs Highlanders</p>
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<p>Lions just need a bonus point to go top and face the Sharks. Then the Canes and Saders will play again in the quarters.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="597317" data-time="1468661916"><p>It goes to points difference I think and tthe Lions have a better PD than the 'canes.</p></blockquote>
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Ah ok, another daft thing IMO, if tied go back to if they played one another, if not, then points diff. -
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<p>Thanks Stargazer, so it looks like a Canes thrashing of the Crusaders and a close Highlanders victory over the Chiefs next weekend will see the Hurricanes top the Conference.</p>
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<p>If tied it goes to most wins, then points differential.</p>
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<p>They can't go by who won in round-robin because some teams don't play each other and some teams play each other twice.</p> -
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<p>If tied it goes to most wins, then points differential.</p>
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<p>They can't go by who won in round-robin because some teams don't play each other and some teams play each other twice.</p>
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<p>I still don't see why that should prevent them from using head to head. If the teams split their games or didn't play you could just move on to points difference.</p> -
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<p>I still don't see why that should prevent them from using head to head. If the teams split their games or didn't play you could just move on to points difference.</p>
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<p>I'm happy enough with points differential. Home advantage, playing off the back of travel or a couple of hard games, can all confer significant advantage to one team for a one-off game.</p> -
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If tied it goes to most wins, then points differential.<br><br>
They can't go by who won in round-robin because some teams don't play each other and some teams play each other twice.</p></blockquote>They can and like wins, points diff, cards or whatever, if it doesn't work they move to the next decider.<br><br>
IMO beating another team is a much better and fairer way to determine who should sit higher than a points diff in different conferences, especially if they have played. -
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<p>They can and like wins, points diff, cards or whatever, if it doesn't work they move to the next decider.<br><br>
IMO beating another team is a much better and fairer way to determine who should sit higher than a points diff in different conferences, especially if they have played.</p>
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<p>yep i'm with you. otherwise team A could be better than team B, but team B get through because they play loose attacking footy in a shit conference and put 70 points on the bunnies.</p>
