All Blacks 2025
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.Dolphins cult hero Valynce Te Whare leaves the NRL for new opportunity
Valynce Te Whare has left the NRL and returned to rugby union after a three-year stay with the Dolphins.
Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason
Leagues version of Levi Aumua.
Piss off, Aumua is actually good ... unless you're the Cantabs and don't know how to use him.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Yep. There has to be consequences for abandoning the ship.
Different strokes for different
Crusaders*folks.*Shannon Michael Frizell appears to have been adopted by the RnB.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Hot take. Caleb Tangitau bolts into the All Blacks next year.
Happy to take Highlanders bias on this, but in a world where there seem to be few impressive u25 wingers in this country, I can see him bolting in.
While it's obviously possible, Tangutau wasn't even very good in the NPC this year...
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Hot take. Caleb Tangitau bolts into the All Blacks next year.
Happy to take Highlanders bias on this, but in a world where there seem to be few impressive u25 wingers in this country, I can see him bolting in.
While it's obviously possible, Tangutau wasn't even very good in the NPC this year...
Sounds like Fihaki...
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Hot take. Caleb Tangitau bolts into the All Blacks next year.
Happy to take Highlanders bias on this, but in a world where there seem to be few impressive u25 wingers in this country, I can see him bolting in.
Lol a winger that was left completely in no man’s land defensively on numerous occasions in the NPC this year has a lot to fix if this is to become true.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Hot take. Caleb Tangitau bolts into the All Blacks next year.
Happy to take Highlanders bias on this, but in a world where there seem to be few impressive u25 wingers in this country, I can see him bolting in.
Lol a winger that was left completely in no man’s land defensively on numerous occasions in the NPC this year has a lot to fix if this is to become true.
Because Mark Tele'a is famed for his defence... As has been pointed out above, he possesses unique physical abilities, and it feels like a while since we've had a winger shoot through.
Even ENS is 25, which is quite old for a winger who has never played for the ABs.
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Went digging into the dark Web and found Devlin's new podcast and an interview with Fozzie and he mentioned a name from the past who is at the Verblitz being Tiaan Falcon ...
... not saying he is AB level, but he was, in my opinion, at Perofeta level.
We're all woe is us about Plummer ... felt he had more to give than Harry IMO.
Saucy young fulla ...
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2025:
Went digging into the dark Web and found Devlin's new podcast and an interview with Fozzie and he mentioned a name from the past who is at the Verblitz being Tiaan Falcon ...
... not saying he is AB level, but he was, in my opinion, at Perofeta level.
We're all woe is us about Plummer ... felt he had more to give than Harry IMO.
Saucy young fulla ...
He must have been bloody impressive in those 4 Super Rugby games he played.
He's like Kaleb Trask. All hype but yet to see what it's all about.
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@African-Monkey yeah blink and you miss it right, no idea how you could form the idea he excels at SR let alone deem him good enough for the ABs.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey yeah blink and you miss it right, no idea how you could form the idea he excels at SR let alone deem him good enough for the ABs.
And say that he's on par, if not better than 2 guys who have played SR for 6-8 seasons, won NPC and SR titles and represented the ABs.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2025:
Ok. I'm wrong. Again. Just felt he is indicative of a level of player we should try and retain. And at that time was on a level with Perofeta.
Just struggling to see what you could be referencing, off 4 games over 2 years? Any level of player we should probably try and retain, but wouldn't he be close to eligible for Japan by now if he was any good?
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Hot take. Caleb Tangitau bolts into the All Blacks next year.
Happy to take Highlanders bias on this, but in a world where there seem to be few impressive u25 wingers in this country, I can see him bolting in.
How old is Leroy Carter ?
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
@cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:
How old is Leroy Carter ?
Older than you think. Now 25, the same age as Naholo.
As to others, Macca Springer is halfway there right?
Springer is the other young one who springs to mind.
I guess what I am getting at, is throughout history, the ABs have had wingers just burst through, and generally they are u25...
Age of Recent Debut ABs Outsides:
Love - 23
Stevenson - 26 (Player 1 Test)
Narawa - 24
Tele'a - 25
Fainga'anuku - 22
Jordan - 22
Clarke - 21
Reece - 22
Bridge - 23
Duffie - 27 (Played 2 Games)
Ioane - 19
Milner-Skudder - 24
Naholo - 24
Halai - 25 (Played 1 Test)
Piatau - 22
Savea - 21There is the odd exception, namely Tele'a who was a month off 26, but looking at the current guys seen as the next cabs, and it is an intriguing list:
NZ XV Squad:
Kini Naholo - 25
Emoni Narawa - 25
Chay Fihaki - 23
Shaun Stevenson - 27Three guys there, who are getting to the point where they are too old to have a career as an ABs outside, and someone who to this point looks nowhere near ABs quality.
Those spoken about past this group:
Etene Nanai-Seturo - 25
Timoci Tavatavanawai - 26
Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens - 23Looking at this landscape, and factoring in historic trends, I kind of expect a winger to bolt into the ABs next year, and to me Tangitau is the obvious one, though Springer not far behind. Kade Banks is the other one I look at. Other possibility would be someone like Xavi Taele getting an extended run on the wing in a strong Blues side...
But the current ABs squad is short of a winger (Reece), and looking at age profiles and trends, I would expect Tele'a to fall off a cliff by the end of the year. New young winger needed, because outside of JRK and Fihaki, all of the other players on the fringe will theoretically be past their best by the 2027 RWC.
