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  • ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
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    ACT Crusader
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    Yeah we are still a chance for the big dance.

    If you want to waste even more time of your employer’s, a decent little predictor to play around with….

    Andrew Purcell

    World Test Championship Predictor

    World Test Championship Predictor

    You predict who makes the World Test Championship Final

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    Damn, now we need to win both our games and rely on results going our way.

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    It's got even harder now.

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/new-zealand-england-docked-wtc-points-for-slow-over-rates-in-christchurch-test-1463242

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    Not sure what it will take to get the teams to speed up the over rates, but the penalty is thoroughly deserved by both teams.

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    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    Not sure what it will take to get the teams to speed up the over rates, but the penalty is thoroughly deserved by both teams.

    Australia missed out on the final we won because of over rates. That was sweet.

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    Not looking good for the next 3 matches.

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps vs England Series:

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    That sums up the Black Caps a run of being Crap caps, then a patch of playing way above expectations then back down to earth.

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    @Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    Not looking good for the next 3 matches.

    Maybe this is where you hit the WWW bit?

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    @NTA said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    Not looking good for the next 3 matches.

    Maybe this is where you hit the WWW bit?

    Yes, could pick it up at the second letter of the Welsh town rather than the 6th. That would be good.

    So who do we need to win in the Aus V Ind series to give us the best chance of making the WTC final? That is a very different question to who we would like to play in the final of course.

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    @Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @NTA said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    Not looking good for the next 3 matches.

    Maybe this is where you hit the WWW bit?

    Yes, could pick it up at the second letter of the Welsh town rather than the 6th. That would be good.

    So who do we need to win in the Aus V Ind series to give us the best chance of making the WTC final? That is a very different question to who we would like to play in the final of course.

    I was playing with the WTC predictor the other and the best outcome for us would be four draws between Aus and Ind. Somehow I imagine that is super unlikely to happen.

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    @LABCAT said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @NTA said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    Not looking good for the next 3 matches.

    Maybe this is where you hit the WWW bit?

    Yes, could pick it up at the second letter of the Welsh town rather than the 6th. That would be good.

    So who do we need to win in the Aus V Ind series to give us the best chance of making the WTC final? That is a very different question to who we would like to play in the final of course.

    I was playing with the WTC predictor the other and the best outcome for us would be four draws between Aus and Ind. Somehow I imagine that is super unlikely to happen.

    Yeah. India couldn't even make a match last 5 days against us, and they just walloped Australia who must be even worse!

    (That gloating feels so damned hollow after last week but what the hell).

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    I saw Latham come out and say the catching is not an issue, that you just sometimes have bad days etc, which I hope was just something he was saying to deflect the media while at the same time he had the boys in the field every day practicing basic catching over and over.

    And given this article, I hope to God that is the case as we are the worst fielding side in the world bar Bangladesh at the moment which is both costly and embarrassing.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360510047/not-kiwis-we-know-brutal-stat-shows-black-caps-catching-demise

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    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    I saw Latham come out and say the catching is not an issue, that you just sometimes have bad days etc, which I hope was just something he was saying to deflect the media while at the same time he had the boys in the field every day practicing basic catching over and over.

    And given this article, I hope to God that is the case as we are the worst fielding side in the world bar Bangladesh at the moment which is both costly and embarrassing.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360510047/not-kiwis-we-know-brutal-stat-shows-black-caps-catching-demise

    Those sort of stats point to either can not concentrate to a test level standard.Or lack of repetitive practice to make catching 2nd nature.
    Pathetic in either case.

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    Zero surprises...

    "We won't go about doing more catching because of the result that happened. We'll make sure we prepare the way we do, it's something we pride ourselves on, and we'll tick those boxes ...and we will be ready to go for this test match.''

    Mitchell said he was unaware of statistics compiled by the cricket.com website that show New Zealand's catching rate in tests this year is the worst of test playing nations bar Bangladesh.

    Dec 4, 2024  /  Sport

    Black Caps out to reverse catching woes in Basin Reserve test

    Black Caps out to reverse catching woes in Basin Reserve test

    Black Cap Daryl Mitchell says he has faith they will reverse their catching woes and ''take some screamers'' in the second test against England in Wellington.

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    Mitchell also misses another point. In the case of the first Test, it's less about having to take "screamers", and more about "not dropping more straightforward chances".

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    @Chris In the cases of Latham and Conway, I wonder if they spend too much time during fielding practice wearing keepers' gloves.

    I don't think Philips keeps anymore, so you'd hope he doesn't.

    I don't think we've been a good fielding team for at least five years. As another example, I reckon the Aussies hit the stumps much more regularly than we do when they shy at them.

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Apart from the last test, Mitchell has actually been the worst culprit in NZ's catching decline. He used to be bucket hands, now he is butter fingers. So he is a good choice to roll out to the media for question on that topic. WHat has changed in the last 2 years? just getting old, or are they doing something less/different.

    I know they're not going to give a 'we are useless, and we've been doing it all wrong' answer. But, some of the soundbites are a bit grating.

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    The Southee/Henry average inversion hasn't happened yet. But unfortunately for Tim his number now starts with a 30.

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    ^^ Notice Ajaz's average. Dropping him for home tests made more sense (like back in 2021) when we had 3 seamers with long careers averaging in the 27s and an up-and-comer averaging in the 18s.

    Now he has a better career average than Tim.

    Doesn't necesarily mean he is well suited for a home test, but the case is less compelling when the senior seamer averages 30.

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