Black Caps vs England Series
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps vs England Series:
Not sure what it will take to get the teams to speed up the over rates, but the penalty is thoroughly deserved by both teams.
Australia missed out on the final we won because of over rates. That was sweet.
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@NTA said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:
Not looking good for the next 3 matches.
Maybe this is where you hit the WWW bit?
Yes, could pick it up at the second letter of the Welsh town rather than the 6th. That would be good.
So who do we need to win in the Aus V Ind series to give us the best chance of making the WTC final? That is a very different question to who we would like to play in the final of course.
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@Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@NTA said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:
Not looking good for the next 3 matches.
Maybe this is where you hit the WWW bit?
Yes, could pick it up at the second letter of the Welsh town rather than the 6th. That would be good.
So who do we need to win in the Aus V Ind series to give us the best chance of making the WTC final? That is a very different question to who we would like to play in the final of course.
I was playing with the WTC predictor the other and the best outcome for us would be four draws between Aus and Ind. Somehow I imagine that is super unlikely to happen.
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@LABCAT said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@NTA said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:
Not looking good for the next 3 matches.
Maybe this is where you hit the WWW bit?
Yes, could pick it up at the second letter of the Welsh town rather than the 6th. That would be good.
So who do we need to win in the Aus V Ind series to give us the best chance of making the WTC final? That is a very different question to who we would like to play in the final of course.
I was playing with the WTC predictor the other and the best outcome for us would be four draws between Aus and Ind. Somehow I imagine that is super unlikely to happen.
Yeah. India couldn't even make a match last 5 days against us, and they just walloped Australia who must be even worse!
(That gloating feels so damned hollow after last week but what the hell).
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I saw Latham come out and say the catching is not an issue, that you just sometimes have bad days etc, which I hope was just something he was saying to deflect the media while at the same time he had the boys in the field every day practicing basic catching over and over.
And given this article, I hope to God that is the case as we are the worst fielding side in the world bar Bangladesh at the moment which is both costly and embarrassing.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps vs England Series:
I saw Latham come out and say the catching is not an issue, that you just sometimes have bad days etc, which I hope was just something he was saying to deflect the media while at the same time he had the boys in the field every day practicing basic catching over and over.
And given this article, I hope to God that is the case as we are the worst fielding side in the world bar Bangladesh at the moment which is both costly and embarrassing.
Those sort of stats point to either can not concentrate to a test level standard.Or lack of repetitive practice to make catching 2nd nature.
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Zero surprises...
"We won't go about doing more catching because of the result that happened. We'll make sure we prepare the way we do, it's something we pride ourselves on, and we'll tick those boxes ...and we will be ready to go for this test match.''
Mitchell said he was unaware of statistics compiled by the cricket.com website that show New Zealand's catching rate in tests this year is the worst of test playing nations bar Bangladesh.
Black Caps out to reverse catching woes in Basin Reserve test
Black Cap Daryl Mitchell says he has faith they will reverse their catching woes and ''take some screamers'' in the second test against England in Wellington.
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@Chris In the cases of Latham and Conway, I wonder if they spend too much time during fielding practice wearing keepers' gloves.
I don't think Philips keeps anymore, so you'd hope he doesn't.
I don't think we've been a good fielding team for at least five years. As another example, I reckon the Aussies hit the stumps much more regularly than we do when they shy at them.
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Apart from the last test, Mitchell has actually been the worst culprit in NZ's catching decline. He used to be bucket hands, now he is butter fingers. So he is a good choice to roll out to the media for question on that topic. WHat has changed in the last 2 years? just getting old, or are they doing something less/different.
I know they're not going to give a 'we are useless, and we've been doing it all wrong' answer. But, some of the soundbites are a bit grating.
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^^ Notice Ajaz's average. Dropping him for home tests made more sense (like back in 2021) when we had 3 seamers with long careers averaging in the 27s and an up-and-comer averaging in the 18s.
Now he has a better career average than Tim.
Doesn't necesarily mean he is well suited for a home test, but the case is less compelling when the senior seamer averages 30.
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Chris In the cases of Latham and Conway, I wonder if they spend too much time during fielding practice wearing keepers' gloves.
I don't think Philips keeps anymore, so you'd hope he doesn't.
I don't think we've been a good fielding team for at least five years. As another example, I reckon the Aussies hit the stumps much more regularly than we do when they shy at them.
yeah here in Australia at all levels there is dedicated fielding days as well as fielding sessions on other days.
As an example the QLD u/19 squad I work with is selected 6 months out from the nationals,they train 4 days a week at the high performance centre.
one of those sessions is a 3 hour fielding session every week for 6 months.
they still train once a week with their clubs, which would include another 30 to 40 min fielding session.
Fielding is seen as massively important here.
We always say as coaches if you can outfield the other team it is worth 80 runs and innings to you not just catching but ground fielding and throwing.
The Craig McDermott academy which I do work with also has a complete week of fielding in their 4 week blocks.There is a waiting list to attend those academy sessions.
The fielding you see in the Australian team comes from hours of working on those skills,When I see the NZ fielding to me it looks like they are not doing the work otherwise the fielding would not be at that standard.
Dropping all those catches in an innings would not be tolerated at club level here. -
With analytics in sports now surely they will have all the required stats.
You would think those catching statistics are a KPI for the fielding coach?
Clearly whatever drills they run aren't working.
It would be interesting to spend a week inside camp to get a feel for how truly professional these teams are.
