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    #142

    Gotta feeling the ABs will go well this Friday. Plenty of motivation and blown away a few cobwebs.
    Roigard-DMac I think will probably start and is our strongest combo.
    Would love it if management threw the cat amongst the pigeons and put Sititi in his preferred no 8 position teaming up with Roigard and DMac. Savea on the side of the scrum.
    Impressed w the bomb squad props / lock so we are in a pretty good position.

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    On Sititi, is 8 his preferred position? He played 7 with Lakai at 8 in the U21?

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    On Sititi, is 8 his preferred position? He played 7 with Lakai at 8 in the U21?

    Sititi was a no.8 up until then. The Blues U20s highlights are on YT, where he was the captain and no.8. Long-term Sititi will be a no.8 and Lakai a 7, the opposite of the positions they played for the NZ U20s.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    On Sititi, is 8 his preferred position? He played 7 with Lakai at 8 in the U21?

    Sititi was a no.8 up until then. The Blues U20s highlights are on YT, where he was the captain and no.8. Long-term Sititi will be a no.8 and Lakai a 7, the opposite of the positions they played for the NZ U20s.

    Why did they reverse them - was Lakai an 8 as well at that point?

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    No idea, probably the coaches decided that was the best option at the time for both players and the team. I've never seen those NZ U20 games myself.

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    Interesting contrast of styles between the super structured Ireland, who are kind of more than the sum of their parts, and NZ, who never seem to be as good as their talent suggests.

    Guys like Aki and Lowe couldn't make the ABs but are key pieces for Ireland. I wonder if the ABs would be better if they were more structured, or would it detract from the natural ability of our players. People in NZ are super critical of guys like Reiko, DMac and Mo'unga... But in a vacuum they are probably the best athletes and/or most talented players in their positions in the world. Why don't we get the best out of them?

    Reiko is 105kgs, probably the fastest player in the squad, extreme acceleration. He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13... Dmac has the most speed of any 10, an awesome skillset, maybe the best catch pass of anyone, again a much better athlete than a Pollard or Sexton... Yet neither is anywhere near as productive on the field. Why?

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    This will be the first game between these teams since Andrew Goodman joined the Irish coaching staff.

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    Gregor Paul: Inside the bitter feud between Ireland and All Blacks
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    What I know so far is Dmac will be 10 which isn’t a surprise. Perofeta is on the bench.

    Hoping to get the rest later tonight

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    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    Interesting contrast of styles between the super structured Ireland, who are kind of more than the sum of their parts, and NZ, who never seem to be as good as their talent suggests.

    Guys like Aki and Lowe couldn't make the ABs but are key pieces for Ireland. I wonder if the ABs would be better if they were more structured, or would it detract from the natural ability of our players. People in NZ are super critical of guys like Reiko, DMac and Mo'unga... But in a vacuum they are probably the best athletes and/or most talented players in their positions in the world. Why don't we get the best out of them?

    Reiko is 105kgs, probably the fastest player in the squad, extreme acceleration. He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13... Dmac has the most speed of any 10, an awesome skillset, maybe the best catch pass of anyone, again a much better athlete than a Pollard or Sexton... Yet neither is anywhere near as productive on the field. Why?

    I’d like to see some proof of that. Kriel looks like an extreme crossfitter.

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    @Landers92 suggests Jordan to wing with BB at fullback then eh....tough on Telea then as can't see a place for him on the bench.

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    BB is out with concussion. Perofeta on the bench isn't a surprise.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    BB is out with concussion. Perofeta on the bench isn't a surprise.

    Yeah duh me. So big test for Jordan and reward for Telea finding his feet again.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    Gregor Paul: Inside the bitter feud between Ireland and All Blacks

    I don't think it's a feud from a NZ point of view. More a noisy rival with a very different rugby culture at the moment to our own.

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    What I know so far is Dmac will be 10 which isn’t a surprise. Perofeta is on the bench.

    Hoping to get the rest later tonight

    I suspect the rest of the backline will be mostly unchanged. Maybe a swap at half back?

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    Interesting contrast of styles between the super structured Ireland, who are kind of more than the sum of their parts, and NZ, who never seem to be as good as their talent suggests.

    Guys like Aki and Lowe couldn't make the ABs but are key pieces for Ireland. I wonder if the ABs would be better if they were more structured, or would it detract from the natural ability of our players. People in NZ are super critical of guys like Reiko, DMac and Mo'unga... But in a vacuum they are probably the best athletes and/or most talented players in their positions in the world. Why don't we get the best out of them?

    Reiko is 105kgs, probably the fastest player in the squad, extreme acceleration. He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13... Dmac has the most speed of any 10, an awesome skillset, maybe the best catch pass of anyone, again a much better athlete than a Pollard or Sexton... Yet neither is anywhere near as productive on the field. Why?

    I’d like to see some proof of that. Kriel looks like an extreme crossfitter.

    Ioane is 8kgs heavier and 5cm taller than Kriel

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    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    Interesting contrast of styles between the super structured Ireland, who are kind of more than the sum of their parts, and NZ, who never seem to be as good as their talent suggests.

    Guys like Aki and Lowe couldn't make the ABs but are key pieces for Ireland. I wonder if the ABs would be better if they were more structured, or would it detract from the natural ability of our players. People in NZ are super critical of guys like Reiko, DMac and Mo'unga... But in a vacuum they are probably the best athletes and/or most talented players in their positions in the world. Why don't we get the best out of them?

    Reiko is 105kgs, probably the fastest player in the squad, extreme acceleration. He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13... Dmac has the most speed of any 10, an awesome skillset, maybe the best catch pass of anyone, again a much better athlete than a Pollard or Sexton... Yet neither is anywhere near as productive on the field. Why?

    I’d like to see some proof of that. Kriel looks like an extreme crossfitter.

    Ioane is 8kgs heavier and 5cm taller than Kriel

    So what ?

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    Interesting contrast of styles between the super structured Ireland, who are kind of more than the sum of their parts, and NZ, who never seem to be as good as their talent suggests.

    Guys like Aki and Lowe couldn't make the ABs but are key pieces for Ireland. I wonder if the ABs would be better if they were more structured, or would it detract from the natural ability of our players. People in NZ are super critical of guys like Reiko, DMac and Mo'unga... But in a vacuum they are probably the best athletes and/or most talented players in their positions in the world. Why don't we get the best out of them?

    Reiko is 105kgs, probably the fastest player in the squad, extreme acceleration. He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13... Dmac has the most speed of any 10, an awesome skillset, maybe the best catch pass of anyone, again a much better athlete than a Pollard or Sexton... Yet neither is anywhere near as productive on the field. Why?

    I’d like to see some proof of that. Kriel looks like an extreme crossfitter.

    Ioane is 8kgs heavier and 5cm taller than Kriel

    So what ?

    Are you seriously trying to suggest Kriel is a better athlete than Ioane?

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    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    Interesting contrast of styles between the super structured Ireland, who are kind of more than the sum of their parts, and NZ, who never seem to be as good as their talent suggests.

    Guys like Aki and Lowe couldn't make the ABs but are key pieces for Ireland. I wonder if the ABs would be better if they were more structured, or would it detract from the natural ability of our players. People in NZ are super critical of guys like Reiko, DMac and Mo'unga... But in a vacuum they are probably the best athletes and/or most talented players in their positions in the world. Why don't we get the best out of them?

    Reiko is 105kgs, probably the fastest player in the squad, extreme acceleration. He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13... Dmac has the most speed of any 10, an awesome skillset, maybe the best catch pass of anyone, again a much better athlete than a Pollard or Sexton... Yet neither is anywhere near as productive on the field. Why?

    I’d like to see some proof of that. Kriel looks like an extreme crossfitter.

    Ioane is 8kgs heavier and 5cm taller than Kriel

    So what ?

    Are you seriously trying to suggest Kriel is a better athlete than Ioane?

    Well I’m certainly disputing the statement that Ioane is apparently the greatest athlete playing rugby these days. Maybe ever ?

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    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    Interesting contrast of styles between the super structured Ireland, who are kind of more than the sum of their parts, and NZ, who never seem to be as good as their talent suggests.

    Guys like Aki and Lowe couldn't make the ABs but are key pieces for Ireland. I wonder if the ABs would be better if they were more structured, or would it detract from the natural ability of our players. People in NZ are super critical of guys like Reiko, DMac and Mo'unga... But in a vacuum they are probably the best athletes and/or most talented players in their positions in the world. Why don't we get the best out of them?

    Reiko is 105kgs, probably the fastest player in the squad, extreme acceleration. He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13... Dmac has the most speed of any 10, an awesome skillset, maybe the best catch pass of anyone, again a much better athlete than a Pollard or Sexton... Yet neither is anywhere near as productive on the field. Why?

    I’d like to see some proof of that. Kriel looks like an extreme crossfitter.

    Ioane is 8kgs heavier and 5cm taller than Kriel

    Imagine how much of an athlete Basteraud was.

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