World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game
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They can't just have a different colour for the 20 minute cards?
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@Duluth said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
Elbow to the head. Kicking in the head. Eye gouge. Penis twists etc
Things that would’ve been reds in the last century
So the ref can call those immediately on the field. It’s worked well so far.. I think it’s been used twice (both in the same match haha)
Those examples are pretty good and probably what most people would envisage. I suppose what they are proposing is akin to the 'Orange card' suggested on here a few times.
Let's hope it's officiated that way and politics doesn't come into it.
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@Crazy-Horse said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
I suppose what they are proposing
I think the article was written poorly. They aren’t changing anything. They are trialling the current SR system
They are against an additional change:
The possibility of the 20-minute version becoming the only red card available to referees is to be discussed at a World Rugby meeting on 14 November -
@No-Quarter said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
They can't just have a different colour for the 20 minute cards?
This.
Orange would make sense.
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@booboo said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@No-Quarter said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
They can't just have a different colour for the 20 minute cards?
This.
Orange would make sense.
ah that could be why large tracts of Ireland are resisting it...
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Yeah Nige, red means red
Unless it gets rescinded 2 days later
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Can we call the 20 minute card an Orange and if the Welsh still object then call it a Welsh red card ..
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@nostrildamus said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
Can we call the 20 minute card an Orange and if the Welsh still object then call it a Welsh red card ..
We’ll have more cards than Hallmark soon if we’re not careful
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@MiketheSnow well it seems some fans love cards, so why not.
While WR are at it, if they see fit to card someone for an accidental head contact, there should be a mandatory HIA on the player that got this head contact (actually, some instances both players should have an HIA) that seems to rarely happen, sometimes can take many minutes before someone thinks to take them off for an HIA.
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@taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@MiketheSnow well it seems some fans love cards, so why not.
While WR are at it, if they see fit to card someone for an accidental head contact, there should be a mandatory HIA on the player that got this head contact (actually, some instances both players should have an HIA) that seems to rarely happen, sometimes can take many minutes before someone thinks to take them off for an HIA.
I understand where you're coming from but using that logic, ANY dangerous tackle should result in the tackled player being taken from the field.
Taking out a player in the air isn't always going to cause an injury but there's a much higher chance of it than if they're on the ground. It's the same for head-high tackles (intentional or not).
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In amazing news new-style red cards are pretty bloody random, and poorly implemented in game by refs (and TMOs!). I get the protect the head, but considering the lottery of cards and the fact the multiple little bangs over extended seasons are quite probably worse, this is why we support the 20 min card
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@Mr-Fish so you are saying if there is a head contact that is deemed worthy to send someone from the field and end thier game, potentially affect the outcome, they dont need to have an HIA?
this one was rescinded too....
Sadly, the game is littered with inconsistency around cards, and subsequent rulings on punishment (or not as is the case sometimes)
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@Mr-Fish said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@MiketheSnow well it seems some fans love cards, so why not.
While WR are at it, if they see fit to card someone for an accidental head contact, there should be a mandatory HIA on the player that got this head contact (actually, some instances both players should have an HIA) that seems to rarely happen, sometimes can take many minutes before someone thinks to take them off for an HIA.
Taking out a player in the air isn't always going to cause an injury but there's a much higher chance of it than if they're on the ground.
Just ban competing for the ball in the air if your team kicked it. Fuck off all the box kicks and you'd have not only a safer, but a better game.
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@reprobate said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@Mr-Fish said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@MiketheSnow well it seems some fans love cards, so why not.
While WR are at it, if they see fit to card someone for an accidental head contact, there should be a mandatory HIA on the player that got this head contact (actually, some instances both players should have an HIA) that seems to rarely happen, sometimes can take many minutes before someone thinks to take them off for an HIA.
Taking out a player in the air isn't always going to cause an injury but there's a much higher chance of it than if they're on the ground.
Just ban competing for the ball in the air if your team kicked it. Fuck off all the box kicks and you'd have not only a safer, but a better game.
ABs don't compete 95% of the time and they still box kick the ball, so I dunno if that is going to make much of s difference
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@taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@Mr-Fish so you are saying if there is a head contact that is deemed worthy to send someone from the field and end thier game, potentially affect the outcome, they dont need to have an HIA?
this one was rescinded too....
Sadly, the game is littered with inconsistency around cards, and subsequent rulings on punishment (or not as is the case sometimes)
I'm saying that just because something is dangerous and needs to be punished, it doesn't mean it should always result in the other player being sent from the field.
Not every head contact will result in concussion just like not every tackle in the air will result in a broken neck. But we don't punish players based on the resulting damage, we punish based on the actions.
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@Machpants said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@reprobate said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@Mr-Fish said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@MiketheSnow well it seems some fans love cards, so why not.
While WR are at it, if they see fit to card someone for an accidental head contact, there should be a mandatory HIA on the player that got this head contact (actually, some instances both players should have an HIA) that seems to rarely happen, sometimes can take many minutes before someone thinks to take them off for an HIA.
Taking out a player in the air isn't always going to cause an injury but there's a much higher chance of it than if they're on the ground.
Just ban competing for the ball in the air if your team kicked it. Fuck off all the box kicks and you'd have not only a safer, but a better game.
ABs don't compete 95% of the time and they still box kick the ball, so I dunno if that is going to make much of s difference
Big part of the reason we haven't been that successful in the last few years is because we've been doing it despite being shit at it, and never bothered improving.
If you have less chance of getting possession back, then people will do it less - the other teams at least will look at the percentages. -
After watching last night’s Euro rugby and this morning’s NPC and AB Test can someone please explain the following
If a defender places his hands on the ground beyond the tackled player and/or the ball it’s a penalty against the defender for not supporting his own body weight
But when a supporting player for the attacking team ends up lying on the floor well beyond the ball either creating a ‘wall’ and / or taking a defender out of play it’s play on
That’s the first thing I’d officiate properly before introducing even more laws
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@MiketheSnow bingo. How about making sure current officiating is up to scratch and consistent before bringing in more confusion.
