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  • MN5M Online
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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    For example, George Bell.

    Yeah true, that's a perfect example of a guy that's really shone at lower level and showed real promise. Absolutely tore it up in super rugby and NPC. I definitely couldn't think of a better one if I was trying to defend surf jesus to the hilt.

    Bloody hell, someone is sarcastic this morning !!!!!

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    @Bones Let me see if I can find something to be disagree about with your post, Chris B..... 🙂

    The thing about hookers is - we've had a very clear prototype since Fitzy. A big, mobile ballrunner. Advanced by Dane Coles and continued on by Taylor and Sami T.

    Now, we could have picked the likes of Riccitelli or Eklund - but, frankly, they're too small to ever be effective against the best teams. Genetics are against them and that's a harsh fact of life for most of us when it comes to test rugby.

    They would have got the shit beaten out of them this year by the bomb squad - and three years hence they'll still get the shit beaten out of them.

    So instead, we've got four months of training into young Bell, who has the size to be useful in the future. We've lost no games because of that. And next year we should get Sami T back.

    Looking like a great investment to me!

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Bones Let me see if I can find something to be disagree about with your post, Chris B..... 🙂

    The thing about hookers is - we've had a very clear prototype since Fitzy. A big, mobile ballrunner. Advanced by Dane Coles and continued on by Taylor and Sami T.

    Now, we could have picked the likes of Riccitelli or Eklund - but, frankly, they're too small to ever be effective against the best teams. Genetics are against them and that's a harsh fact of life for most of us when it comes to test rugby.

    They would have got the shit beaten out of them this year by the bomb squad - and three years hence they'll still get the shit beaten out of them.

    So instead, we've got four months of training into young Bell, who has the size to be useful in the future. We've lost no games because of that. And next year we should get Sami T back.

    Looking like a great investment to me!

    Does Keven Mealamu mean nothing to you ?

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    @Chris-B you've completely missed the point and doubled down by calling Coles big.

    D-

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    @MN5 Who the hell wrote that jizz soaked drivel?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @MN5 Who the hell wrote that jizz soaked drivel?

    AI

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @MN5 Who the hell wrote that jizz soaked drivel?

    AI

    Soft porn for Saders fans

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @MN5 said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Bones Let me see if I can find something to be disagree about with your post, Chris B..... 🙂

    The thing about hookers is - we've had a very clear prototype since Fitzy. A big, mobile ballrunner. Advanced by Dane Coles and continued on by Taylor and Sami T.

    Now, we could have picked the likes of Riccitelli or Eklund - but, frankly, they're too small to ever be effective against the best teams. Genetics are against them and that's a harsh fact of life for most of us when it comes to test rugby.

    They would have got the shit beaten out of them this year by the bomb squad - and three years hence they'll still get the shit beaten out of them.

    So instead, we've got four months of training into young Bell, who has the size to be useful in the future. We've lost no games because of that. And next year we should get Sami T back.

    Looking like a great investment to me!

    Does Keven Mealamu mean nothing to you ?

    Not in the slightest.

    I'll tell you something you didn't know about Kev - he and Codie Taylor are almost exactly twelve years apart in age there's 10 days in it. So, if Codie is motivated, he can go to the next RWC.

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    I thought it sounded like Indian cricket fans talking about Kapil Dev or Sachin Tendulkar

    Mind you @nostrildamus is a weird fish sometimes so maybe he had a bit of a late night write up ?

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    @Chris-B pointing out they picked an average youngster when they were painted into a corner doesn't seem that great to me.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    I thought it sounded like Indian cricket fans talking about Kapil Dev or Sachin Tendulkar

    Mind you @nostrildamus is a weird fish sometimes so maybe he had a bit of a late night write up ?

    Chat gpt. I asked it to describe Razor in the spirit of Life of Brian.

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  • MN5M Online
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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    I thought it sounded like Indian cricket fans talking about Kapil Dev or Sachin Tendulkar

    Mind you @nostrildamus is a weird fish sometimes so maybe he had a bit of a late night write up ?

    Chat gpt. I asked it to describe Razor in the spirit of Life of Brian.

    Stop being modest. You wrote it yourself….from the heart !

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:

    All in all a bit of an average game, I know not top team etc, but a combination of a real crap field and not a lot of connection in either team left me thinking it not a test I'll remember for a long time.

    Did you and @Bones enjoy the game together?

    Well as he in England , and I still in NZ, not quite mate lol!

    Oh what, I thought you said earlierin the thread that you were over there! Never mind then haha!

    Naa Mate meant to head off tomorrow!

    Safe travels!

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    I thought it sounded like Indian cricket fans talking about Kapil Dev or Sachin Tendulkar

    Mind you @nostrildamus is a weird fish sometimes so maybe he had a bit of a late night write up ?

    Chat gpt. I asked it to describe Razor in the spirit of Life of Brian.

    Stop being modest. You wrote it yourself….from the heart !

    I'll admit I admired some of the prose
    But I'm scared if asked to write a day in the life of Sotutu in Albert Camus style it will just select one of my posts...

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @Chris-B Fitzy was strong but he wasn't that big. And yes I have met him. And I don't think Coles was that big either? Compared to SA and England I don't think our regular hookers often looked that big?

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B pointing out they picked an average youngster when they were painted into a corner doesn't seem that great to me.

    The original point I was making was - Razor wouldn't have been forgiven if we'd lost a game because of Bell.

    Even though I've pointed out why there was some logic to that selection, which to labour the point with NZ A picks (or not):

    Riccitelli - too small
    Eklund - too small
    Slater - injured
    McAlister - another Crusader

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by
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    @nostrildamus For his era, Fitzy was big - he wouldn't be now.

    None are as big as e.g. Steve Thompson - maybe Sami T.

    Coles wasn't huge but was exceptionally fast.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @Chris-B

    That's all true and it's fine if we are winning (and well) but we're really not.

    At this stage in his coaching cycle, I'm not sure sticking with players at the very fag-end of their careers is the way to go - it just reduces the time he has to build the team he wants.

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  • BonesB Online
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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B pointing out they picked an average youngster when they were painted into a corner doesn't seem that great to me.

    The original point I was making was - Razor wouldn't have been forgiven if we'd lost a game because of Bell.

    Even though I've pointed out why there was some logic to that selection, which to labour the point with NZ A picks (or not):

    Riccitelli - too small
    Eklund - too small
    Slater - injured
    McAlister - another Crusader

    Correct, because Bell is average and would have been a stupid selection. Why would you select a youngster off the back of an ordinary season, above 3 proven performers in good form?

    You've chosen about the worst option to try and prove your point and it's bordering on bizarre... probably because it's a point you can't prove?

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    @Chris-B

    Riccitelli is the same weight as Taylor.

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