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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    They are calling in a player they are familiar with (and have worked with a lot before) as injury cover. A player that could be needed at short notice with one more 9 injury. A promising young player. It's not a conspiracy.

    Exactly.

    He's the fifth choice!

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    @Chris-B probably 3 better options, coaches need to look out of there comfort zone on this 1 , anyway it is what it is.

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    @george33 who? i would argue someone like Fakatava was the "safe" option as has been in and amoungst the AB a lot before, they opted to bring in someone new presumably based on liking what they see

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    @Kiwiwomble I definitely rate, Fakatava, Funaki ahead of him, Funaki was the form 9 until Christie returned, if we don't go on super form for backups what's the point of it? just because U have coached him Before at super , well this ain't super look around razor and co , U might be surprised or is this just another us v them situation, any way that's my opinion on it.

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    @Kiwiwomble My memory of the Breakdown last night is they were favouring Hotham - which is an independent assessment from the AB selectors.

    They discussed Fakatava and the nub seemed to be that his key strength is running, but almost certainly if the new halfback had to be used he'd come off the bench - and if we were well ahead it wouldn't matter, but in a tight test you'd want a different skillset.

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    @SBW1 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Noah Hotham?

    I suspect he may be close to getting picked. Not saying I would select him, but when he started looking like he belonged in Super Rugby this year he showed a handy running game, a crisp pass and the ability to clear under pressure.

    He could be the backline selection version of Bell.

    Yep NZR said begiining of last year they had tabs on Hotham!

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    @Chris-B the Breakdown haha, that's a great name who watches that bullshit

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    Funaki was outstanding for the Blues.
    Hothham doesn't look too bad either.

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    Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

    Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

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    @Kirwan I still don't understand why Funaki was replaced.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Kirwan I still don't understand why Funaki was replaced.

    the much maligned Christie made some big plays in the playoff run. His pass isn't top drawer but he brings other things to the table. Just like Marshall back in the day 😛

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    @nzzp
    That's it with him isn't it.
    He's always getting in (to the Blues and ABs) based on experience.
    He wasn't outstanding, just solid.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    He wasn't outstanding, just solid.

    Huge for us defensively and at the ruck.

    Watch the big turnover at the end of the game - he comes into the line, pushes the defender out to make the tackle and is right there for the TO. Same thing happened at least once that I saw in the Test at the weekend.

    I'm not a massive fan, but he isn't the donkey people make him out to be. He ain't Aaron Smith, but no-one is. Brings a different game to the table ... and the reservation is the core role (passing).

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    It was noticeable how slow TJP's passing was.

    TJ can be slow. But in this game he was good.

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    Far too early for Hotham.

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack to be 3rd choice? so basically baring injury in training this is work experience for him?

    given the injury to our clear first choice (CR)....second and third are really relying on experience to be there (TJP and FC)....your other options with experience is fakatava...who has gone a bit off the boil....or picking between the two young inexperienced guys....it make some sense to me

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    Next my bet is Hannah, Grace,Springer, some were close in the future

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    @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Chris-B probably 3 better options, coaches need to look out of there comfort zone on this 1 , anyway it is what it is.

    I can only think of one who isn't injured.

    I enjoy irritating Saders fans as much as the next person, but Hotham clearly has promise.

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    im not saying he would have been my first choice....but as someone thats starting regularly for a super team and given our injuries....hes obviously an option....its not like theyve named the 2nd grade 9 from Sumner Rugby Club

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