Hurricanes vs Blues
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@nzzp said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
Also 2020 coinsided with you guys stealing Beaudy from us so there is also that
his wife relocated him. Sorry.
The old honey trap. The Blues will stop at nothing to get back to the top.
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@Crazy-Horse a few $$ from outside parties definitely sweetened the deal.
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Cotter comments on this weeks selections, keeping players fresh etc
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350204928/super-rugby-pacific-blues-play-long-game-hoskins-sotutu-bench-gamble -
I think it's very easy to say Laidlaw is picking on form instead of experience. Who are the experienced options that he could be picking?
Is PUJ even fit? Is Sullivan? Did they feature for the Hurricanes Hunters the other week? With Perenara and Judd injured, a guy like Viljoen was always going to get a go - similar with Lakai etc. Laidlaw might be making more bold selections calls than Holland, but it's also possible that Holland would be making similar calls right now.
It's also funny how quickly the tide turns on what players are considered good or not. It wasn't that long ago that Billy Proctor was considered a waste of space by most people on here whereas PUJ was the great midfield saviour.
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@Mr-Fish said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
It wasn't that long ago that Billy Proctor was considered a waste of space by most people on here whereas PUJ was the great midfield saviour.
Because of performances on the field. PUJ was given every opportunity during last year's NPC and didn't measure up. Whereas Proctor has improved out of sight in recent years.
but it's also possible that Holland would be making similar calls right now.
Holland and Gibbes were poor selectors. Some of their lock selections were idiotic. They preferred 1.90 locks or smaller. And regardless of performance they always went back to their favorites. Including rubbish like Blackwell or Morgan etc.
What I've seen so far, this year gives me hope. No more stupid selections that were made with both the Canes under Holland and Wellington under Ellison. I hope it continues.
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@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
Cotter comments on this weeks selections, keeping players fresh etc
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350204928/super-rugby-pacific-blues-play-long-game-hoskins-sotutu-bench-gambleGood sensible coaching, if the AB coaches suggest it ,it end of world.
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At the end of the day Holland made horrible selection decisions, so far we haven't seen that from Laidlaw but it is only week 3. Holland didn't just do it over a span of one year, he selected the wrong guys year after year and it really prevented us from reaching our potential. The fact we haven't seen Morgan yet shows Laidlaw is already making the right moves.
I'm also not sure who made the decision to cut Julian Savea but if that was Laidlaw I give him plenty of cudos. He seems to be a guy that no matter your reputation, if you don't perform then you simply don't get picked. Brad Shields mentioned that Laidlaw made it very clear to him that even though he was made captain of this team he still needed to perform otherwise he would find himself sitting in the stands. Ironically, he's been sitting in the stands to start the season but that's purely down to injury.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
The fact we haven't seen Morgan yet shows Laidlaw is already making the right moves.
As Cameron has been fit to play. If he isn't then Laidlaw will have a make a decision (Morgan or Love).
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@foobaNZ said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Mr-Fish Holland would have started Morgan, I'm pretty confident of that.
Cameron is far and away the right call. Not flashy but gets the team around the paddock and kicks his goals.
Holland selected Cameron ahead of Morgan when Cameron was fit. The issue was Cameron was injured a fair bit under Holland.
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@foobaNZ said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@canefan to be fair to PUJ, the season after he made the ABs, Holland would sporadically pick him for the Canes for whatever reason. He'd play well one week then be dropped. Had to weigh on the guy.
Totally agree, Holland has a lot to answer for. Sports are a confidence game, hard to play your best when you keep getting dropped
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Unless you're a Canes fan I think it will be hard for anyone to understand how much he f'd with that team while he was in charge. The selections at times were completely bemusing and there are countless threads from the past that had so many of us scratching our heads.
I'm so glad he's gone.
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@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@foobaNZ said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Mr-Fish Holland would have started Morgan, I'm pretty confident of that.
Cameron is far and away the right call. Not flashy but gets the team around the paddock and kicks his goals.
Holland selected Cameron ahead of Morgan when Cameron was fit. The issue was Cameron was injured a fair bit under Holland.
Hey kiwiM, don't be saying what everyone who watched could see mate. I also thought Caneron always got selected when fit, but was struggling with fitness. Holland maybe in gun for a few things but not Cameron starting more last year.