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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Well he already accidentally selected Sititi instead of Sotutu, and now he has to act like it was his idea all along....

    Could it in fact just be a typo or poor spelling? He spilt his coffee on his notebook?

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Well he already accidentally selected Sititi instead of Sotutu, and now he has to act like it was his idea all along....

    Could it in fact just be a typo or poor spelling? He spilt his coffee on his notebook?

    Prolly cos some guy's uncle was trying to eavesdrop on selection at the cafe

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Well he already accidentally selected Sititi instead of Sotutu, and now he has to act like it was his idea all along....

    Could it in fact just be a typo or poor spelling? He spilt his coffee on his notebook?

    Only if Hoskins makes the RC squad and Sititi gets dropped

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    Some reaction from Ratima and Sititi.

    Stuff
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    Scott Hansen comes across really well

    Keep using him in the media please.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Scott Hansen comes across really well

    Keep using him in the media please.

    What did he say about Hoskins? I just missed that bit

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Scott Hansen comes across really well

    Keep using him in the media please.

    What did he say about Hoskins? I just missed that bit

    Link below.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Scott Hansen comes across really well

    Keep using him in the media please.

    What did he say about Hoskins? I just missed that bit

    Basically that he just needs to continue to do what he's doing - that his game is improved but he just needs to keep at it - they recognise he has points of difference to his game that other loosies don't bring. That he has been given a lot of feedback and pretty adamant that he's very close.

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    yes about 17 mins in, I could not hear any description of weakness.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Scott Hansen comes across really well

    Keep using him in the media please.

    What did he say about Hoskins? I just missed that bit

    Basically that he just needs to continue to do what he's doing - that his game is improved but he just needs to keep at it - they recognise he has points of difference to his game that other loosies don't bring. That he has been given a lot of feedback and pretty adamant that he's very close.

    What he's doing, being the best 8 in the country clearly isn't working, otherwise he'd be in the team and not the young impact player from the Chiefs.

    Smells a bit PR speak to me.

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    From Two Cents Rugby channel.
    Hoskins scored way more tries and assists and good passing.
    Sotutu is also better in turnovers.
    Far less tackles than the others (though Jacobson shouldn't be in there because he was 7)

    Aligns with the comment on his work on both sides of the ball.
    I think they think he shirks the defensive work.
    According to this guy Blues made marginally less tackles than the Chiefs overall in the season. Can't vouch for his numbers.

    Blue line is tackles per game.(Sotutu lowest)
    Orange line is missed tackles (Sotutu highest)

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    @canefan
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    Start talking Hoskins at 9:21.

    Edit: sorry hadn’t seen you added this

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Mr-Fish Hoskins Sotutu was in almost everyone else's squad. His stats this year were amazing and he has developed a real edge to his game. Opponents fear him.

    Yes, it's ultimately Robertson's judgement that matters. But it doesn't sit easy to me that he has passed over an outstanding talent in great form from a rival province, then shown loyalty to his old chums from what has been a misfiring outfit this year.

    When did Razor coach North Harbour?

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

    Assume that is when Bladder is actually playing?

    He plays?

    37 minutes of brilliant rugby every season. Apparently.

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    That interview with Hansen confirms that:

    1. Hall really rates him, excellent.
    2. That these guys are going to give us platitudes and fuck all detail. The discussion of Sotutu and Hobbiton were incredibly light on detail and amounted to, keep playing well. Jeez. Illuminating.

    I did like the discussion of how they rate athletes who can get low. And, I liked Hansen's attitude.

    Let's hope they made the right choices - if they drop the game at Eden park an awful lot of heat will be coming.

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    Not posted for a number of years, but hear goes.
    Blackadder seems to me to be another Ruben Thorne and I can't see him making it through the training sessions without breaking down yet again. Barrett captain hmm really I think he's a bit of a liability at international level due to the number of red and yellow cards he gets. At the moment I'm not drinking Robertson's cool aid I hope he doesn't turn out to be "The Emperors New Clothes" type

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    @gt12
    I agree there were a few too many platitudes in there.

    I think Hansen was trying to avoid publicly calling out (what they see) as his deficiencies. (which are probably related to his defence and abrasiveness)

    They did say he has been given "feedback" on his game.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12
    I agree there were a few too many platitudes in there.

    I think Hansen was trying to avoid publicly calling out (what they see) as his deficiencies. (which are probably related to his defence and abrasiveness)

    They did say he has been given "feedback" on his game.

    And, he's got nowhere to show improvement.

    Not till February next year.

    NPC is such a drop in quality he could be the best player there and they won't give a fuck.

    Hansen essentially said that in his interview - they don't think Super rugby stacks up against the international game. If that is the case, how is anyone going to play there way in till next year? NPC is another world.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12
    I agree there were a few too many platitudes in there.

    I think Hansen was trying to avoid publicly calling out (what they see) as his deficiencies. (which are probably related to his defence and abrasiveness)

    They did say he has been given "feedback" on his game.

    And, he's got nowhere to show improvement.

    Not till February next year.

    NPC is such a drop in quality he could be the best player there and they won't give a fuck.

    Hansen essentially said that in his interview - they don't think Super rugby stacks up against the international game. If that is the case, how is anyone going to play there way in till next year? NPC is another world.

    If they don't think SR stacks up, I guess those 7 titles don't mean shit.....

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    For me the 'two cents' stats were helpful in showing that there isnt much between the three 8s when you take into account strength of the rest of the pack, systems being used, how each team chose to use their 8's , what each of the 8's natural strengths are.
    You then pick an ABs 8 that fits how you want to play with consideration in the mix of the other loosies s around games.
    Nothing in it for those three (but would have preferred to see the other two 8s in SR rather than jacobson (did he play 8 this season?).

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