All Blacks 2024
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Fickou, Danty, Ikitau...
Ikitau? Rieko regularly outplays him at test and Super level (including last weekend)
As much as Drummond regularly outplayed Smith at super level.
You seem to have missed the *and test level.
Ikitau is a good player but his form is nowhere near what it was 2-3 years ago.
Just as well the squad is named on Monday - we've all drained as much out of these topics as we can I think haha
Reckon if Smith played for Australia and Drummond played ABs he would have "outplayed" him there too.
But yeah I'm not as committed to this stoush as I'm making out.
Where's razor?
The old @Bones wouldn’t have backed out. Talk about getting soft in your old age.
Don’t you mean the young @Bones? He is the old @Bones!He's inside the system
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
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In a list of guys that play 12 like Barrett, Lam is right up there.
Probably:
Lam
Proctor
PoihipiWho am I missing?
Tuapea?
Strikes me as more of a hybrid between that direct type and that ALB type.
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I'd say Daniel Rona is probably a better option than AJ Lam if you're looking for an up-the-guts carrier.
I do agree that Proctor has been the form NZ centre this year but I don't think he'd be selected ahead of Ioane or ALB, so I'm not sure how many games he'd be getting as a (largely) specialist centre. But it would feel harsh for him to miss out to someone like Havili or Lam just because they've spent more time at 12 this year.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
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In a list of guys that play 12 like Barrett, Lam is right up there.
Probably:
Lam
Proctor
PoihipiWho am I missing?
Tuapea?
Strikes me as more of a hybrid between that direct type and that ALB type.
Sounds like we’re talking about how to hit on women, I must say I’ve never tried the ALB approach.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
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In a list of guys that play 12 like Barrett, Lam is right up there.
Probably:
Lam
Proctor
PoihipiWho am I missing?
Tuapea?
Defence still isn't good enough.
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1 thing I think we can all agree on here is that the emergence of Proctor is the best thing that could happen for the centre position in the All Blacks squad.
If Proctor gets a chance and plays out of his skin, awesome. If Rieko Ioane continues to get picked, he has a young and in form centre right behind him waiting for his chance. The competitive edge will bring out the best in both players and keep them honest. I’m not saying Ioane has become complacent, but he hasn’t exactly had a centre breathing down his neck since he’s been the All Blacks 13(ALB the nearest).
It’s a win win and we should all be glad Proctor has improved as much as he has.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Rumour is George Bell to be named in the AB squad on Monday.
You will see on Monday
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Razor must be going with his no line out gameplan if that’s the case.
RR deserves a shot
Yeah George Bell isn't ready yet, super harsh on Riccitelli if true.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Rumour is George Bell to be named in the AB squad on Monday.
Has it been confirmed that Taukei'aho is ruled out of the series? Leads you to believe he is. Taylor and Aumua to hold down the fort and hopefully stay healthy.
Might sound harsh but I don’t think George Bell deserves a cap yet, or even be in the full squad yet.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Rumour is George Bell to be named in the AB squad on Monday.
Has it been confirmed that Taukei'aho is ruled out of the series? Leads you to believe his is. Taylor and Aumua to hold down the fort and hopefully stay healthy.
Apparantly he is out for the series
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
1 thing I think we can all agree on here is that the emergence of Proctor is the best thing that could happen for the centre position in the All Blacks squad.
If Proctor gets a chance and plays out of his skin, awesome. If Rieko Ioane continues to get picked, he has a young and in form centre right behind him waiting for his chance. The competitive edge will bring out the best in both players and keep them honest. I’m not saying Ioane has become complacent, but he hasn’t exactly had a centre breathing down his neck since he’s been the All Blacks 13(ALB the nearest).
It’s a win win and we should all be glad Proctor has improved as much as he has.
100%, it's good for the ABs that's for sure. Let's just hope Proctor gets in.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Lol how is Billy Proctor all of a sudden unfavoured. He was clearly the form centre throughout the majority of Super rugby and has been kicking the door down for a couple years now with his consistency. I'll be very surprised if he wasn't selected, especially because Holland is selecting the centres and he pushed for his case when he was coaching the Canes aswell.
My opinion only.
Could be wrong and not watched him close enough. But he's least favoured of the most mentioned to me, and I can see the attraction of Havili, and Proctor is the guy I'd leave out.
Sorry, to alll the Canes Mafia.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Rumour is George Bell to be named in the AB squad on Monday.
Has it been confirmed that Taukei'aho is ruled out of the series? Leads you to believe his is. Taylor and Aumua to hold down the fort and hopefully stay healthy.
Apparantly he is out for the series
I guess it makes sense but jeez it’s harsh on RR. Bring in the young guy who has plenty of years ahead of him and is potentially the future I guess is the thought process.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Rumour is George Bell to be named in the AB squad on Monday.
Has it been confirmed that Taukei'aho is ruled out of the series? Leads you to believe his is. Taylor and Aumua to hold down the fort and hopefully stay healthy.
Apparantly he is out for the series
I guess it makes sense but jeez it’s harsh on RR. Bring in the young guy who has plenty of years ahead of him and it’s potentially the future I guess is the thought process.
It seems to be the idea.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Is a 32 man squad too small?
We only need 23.
It's only too small if we're looking to fit all our pet provincial picks in.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Could be wrong and not watched him close enough
Probably why you've come to this conclusion.
