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    modules:composer.user_said_in, @mariner4life, All Blacks 2024 - looking forward

    sort of adding to my point above, if the AB game style is dependent on a big munter to run straight from 12, who is the 2nd best player in NZ to do that? If it is AJ Lam, then pick him. Is he a better player than, say, ALB? no, but is he the best fit for the game style the coaches want? if the answer is yes, then that's how you select.

    The point I made earlier. In fact, most of the 12/3 hybrids are about the same size. Heem is bigger and taller, but at 35 isn’t a realistic prospect.

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    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Tamaiti Williams is a probable inclusion : he has not played a lot of rugby this year but he did very well during the RWC as an impact player from the bench. He is a powerful scrummager when on the LH side and has one of the highest ceilings among the NZ props. Moreover, he is a Cantabrian. My prediction for the props :
    De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Williams, Lomax, Newell. As OfaT and Williams can cover TH, I don't see the need of selecting six props.

    Yeah Williams will be selected for sure.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    there really isn't the need for "utilities" in the back line. Nearly everyone can play in more than one position. The only value BBarrett brings is he covers 10 and 15. ALB covers both midfields. You can stick anyone on a wing

    Picking a guy because he's put a 15 and a 12 jersey on before is flawed thinking.

    If they pick Harry Plummer, he can also cover midfield at 12

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    modules:composer.user_said_in, @Bones, All Blacks 2024 - looking forward

    In a list of guys that play 12 like Barrett, Lam is right up there.

    Probably:
    Lam
    Proctor
    Poihipi

    Who am I missing?

    Tuapea?

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    modules:composer.user_said_in, @mariner4life, All Blacks 2024 - looking forward

    lol Reiko would start for basically everyone. Who is better? And don't say fucking Am, who hasn't done shit in years.

    Reiko would transform Ireland for instance.

    Is Reiko any relation to Seiko?

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    @Canes4life Your loyalty is touching, Matt.

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    modules:composer.user_said_in, @MN5, All Blacks 2024 - looking forward

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Fickou, Danty, Ikitau...

    Ikitau? Rieko regularly outplays him at test and Super level (including last weekend)

    As much as Drummond regularly outplayed Smith at super level.

    You seem to have missed the *and test level.

    Ikitau is a good player but his form is nowhere near what it was 2-3 years ago.

    Just as well the squad is named on Monday - we've all drained as much out of these topics as we can I think haha

    Reckon if Smith played for Australia and Drummond played ABs he would have "outplayed" him there too.

    But yeah I'm not as committed to this stoush as I'm making out.

    Where's razor?

    The old @Bones wouldn’t have backed out. Talk about getting soft in your old age.
    Don’t you mean the young @Bones? He is the old @Bones!

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    @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @MN5 plus I'm in fucking Dublin and my desire for anything other than getting the fuck outta this shithole is low.

    For someone with Hutt roots that is quite the diss indeed

    The Hutt Valley is absolute paradise and I won't hear anything different.

    You need help

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    modules:composer.user_said_in, @MN5, All Blacks 2024 - looking forward

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Fickou, Danty, Ikitau...

    Ikitau? Rieko regularly outplays him at test and Super level (including last weekend)

    As much as Drummond regularly outplayed Smith at super level.

    You seem to have missed the *and test level.

    Ikitau is a good player but his form is nowhere near what it was 2-3 years ago.

    Just as well the squad is named on Monday - we've all drained as much out of these topics as we can I think haha

    Reckon if Smith played for Australia and Drummond played ABs he would have "outplayed" him there too.

    But yeah I'm not as committed to this stoush as I'm making out.

    Where's razor?

    The old @Bones wouldn’t have backed out. Talk about getting soft in your old age.
    Don’t you mean the young @Bones? He is the old @Bones!

    He's inside the system

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    modules:composer.user_said_in, @Bones, All Blacks 2024 - looking forward

    In a list of guys that play 12 like Barrett, Lam is right up there.

    Probably:
    Lam
    Proctor
    Poihipi

    Who am I missing?

    Tuapea?

    Strikes me as more of a hybrid between that direct type and that ALB type.

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    I'd say Daniel Rona is probably a better option than AJ Lam if you're looking for an up-the-guts carrier.

    I do agree that Proctor has been the form NZ centre this year but I don't think he'd be selected ahead of Ioane or ALB, so I'm not sure how many games he'd be getting as a (largely) specialist centre. But it would feel harsh for him to miss out to someone like Havili or Lam just because they've spent more time at 12 this year.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    modules:composer.user_said_in, @Bones, All Blacks 2024 - looking forward

    In a list of guys that play 12 like Barrett, Lam is right up there.

    Probably:
    Lam
    Proctor
    Poihipi

    Who am I missing?

    Tuapea?

    Strikes me as more of a hybrid between that direct type and that ALB type.

    Sounds like we’re talking about how to hit on women, I must say I’ve never tried the ALB approach.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    modules:composer.user_said_in, @Bones, All Blacks 2024 - looking forward

    In a list of guys that play 12 like Barrett, Lam is right up there.

    Probably:
    Lam
    Proctor
    Poihipi

    Who am I missing?

    Tuapea?

    Defence still isn't good enough.

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    Rumour is George Bell to be named in the AB squad on Monday.

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    Really wish Numia would have a go at hooker.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Rumour is George Bell to be named in the AB squad on Monday.

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    1 thing I think we can all agree on here is that the emergence of Proctor is the best thing that could happen for the centre position in the All Blacks squad.

    If Proctor gets a chance and plays out of his skin, awesome. If Rieko Ioane continues to get picked, he has a young and in form centre right behind him waiting for his chance. The competitive edge will bring out the best in both players and keep them honest. I’m not saying Ioane has become complacent, but he hasn’t exactly had a centre breathing down his neck since he’s been the All Blacks 13(ALB the nearest).

    It’s a win win and we should all be glad Proctor has improved as much as he has.

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    @Chris

    Razor must be going with his no line out gameplan if that’s the case.

    RR deserves a shot

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Rumour is George Bell to be named in the AB squad on Monday.

    You will see on Monday

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    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris

    Razor must be going with his no line out gameplan if that’s the case.

    RR deserves a shot

    Yeah George Bell isn't ready yet, super harsh on Riccitelli if true.

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