All Blacks 2024
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@Bones you could say that about almost every player these days…
Barrett and Taylor are proven winners under Robertson so that will probably sway it in their favour.
I'm not too fussed who's captain tbh, I just want the ABs to get back to being dominant like we were 5-6 years ago.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.
This is the guy that does dumb shit every week even in super rugby?
…..an AB captain shouldn’t let Dane Coles get to him either but Taylor did.
Also is he clearly the best hooker ? Aumua has been sensational.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
Um, this was put out 5 months ago wasn't it?
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@Canes4life If you appoint Taylor as captain then you need a trusted VC as Taylor won't be playing the full 80 mins.
Using @Tim's criteria, I'm with you on Papalii. He's not exactly Mensa material.
I think it will be SB but the back injury could be a concern.
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@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
Um, this was put out 5 months ago wasn't it?
Yeah what has that got do with anything I put it up becomes people were wondering what the roles are.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
What I'm hearing is that Ethan Blackadder should be captain?
Well his Dad was selected as a specialist captain despite not being the best in his position…..
….and EB doesn’t play enough to prove things either way so why not ?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.
Iose isn't a 7 and even I can admit Lakai won't be getting many mins this year if selected. Player of the future for sure.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
What I'm hearing is that Ethan Blackadder should be captain?
You might be on the money there, he is the GOAT after all.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.
Iose isn't a 7 and even I can admit Lakai won't be getting many mins this year if selected. Player of the future for sure.
Aha, so now you're saying Iose is a better 8 than Savea? Well I never.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Cullen had the misfortune of being compared to himself in his hey day rather than against other players, he was definitely the best fullback in 03 but he didn't have much left in him at that stage. I think we could have gotten another season out of him, but begrudgingly can see why they wanted to look forward given his injuries. His treatment by Bitchell was unforgiveable for an AB great to be cast aside the way he was though.
It was Deans, he selected the backline, read Umaga's book he didn't rate Tana and Christian right from the beginning and tried to create a backline consisting entirely of light & gangly Crusaders like Leon McDonald, Aaron Mauger, Ben Blair, Caleb Ralph, Mark Robinson, etc..
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Iose is a better 8 than Savea
Lol this guy.
Pretty logical step to make when you say if Paps is captain it won't harm Iose's chances. I'd assumed if it was the case, Savea would be 8....
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@gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:
Mils at Centre?
Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.
Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.
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@ruggabee I have memories of absolutely fuming when Ronbinson was selected ahead of Umaga for a test. Absolutely outrageous selection.
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@Bones I don't have Iose in the ABs. Yes, he's been in good form for the Canes but he misses out unfortunately because they'll pick Savea as a 7/8 and Sotutu who's also been in great touch.
If you read above I actually said I wouldn't mind seeing a loosie combination of 6. Finau 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Blackadder off the bench, Paps waiting in the wings and then Lakai as the apprentice / another guy that can cover all three positions.
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@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:
Mils at Centre?
Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.
Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.
Yeah and before anyone says Umaga was injured, he wasn't as I've had chats about this with his son Kade years back. Shocking selection.
