All Blacks 2024
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
defend Foster? From a Chiefs fan? GTFO
But after years and years and years of "dur Fozzie sucks" we are still getting posts referencing him like he's the only one who selected guys out of position. It's tedious.
NZ Rugby has, for as long as i can remember, been far too in love with its depth, and loves to get clever trying to shoehorn players on to the field. And it very fucking rarely works. I will laugh out loud if we finally have a few 6s playing high quality football, and Mr. "innovative systems" just picks another 7.5 there.
Where's this bile for Razor coming from Mariner?
He hasn't even started and you are all over him at every opportunity.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
If Quinten had done a bit less dumb shit this year, he probably would have an inside track. He and Ah Koui seemed to be the first choice AB XV locks last year.
Unfortunately the only part of Ah Koui's game that has improved this year is his post match interviews.
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
defend Foster? From a Chiefs fan? GTFO
But after years and years and years of "dur Fozzie sucks" we are still getting posts referencing him like he's the only one who selected guys out of position. It's tedious.
NZ Rugby has, for as long as i can remember, been far too in love with its depth, and loves to get clever trying to shoehorn players on to the field. And it very fucking rarely works. I will laugh out loud if we finally have a few 6s playing high quality football, and Mr. "innovative systems" just picks another 7.5 there.
Where's this bile for Razor coming from Mariner?
He hasn't even started and you are all over him at every opportunity.
Concerned.don't be.
I wish the bloke all the best, and sincerely hope he's the guy to turn us back in to a side no one wants to play. I would love nothing more than for AB tests inevitable for all involved again.The tone of my posts on the Fern are purely a reflection of the absolute glazing from certain sections of the membership here for the past 4-5 years. It's bordered on fan fiction.
And lets face it, this thread is nothing but wild guesses thrown about by absolutely everyone involved. So if you're taking anything seriously that's on you
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Mils at Centre?
Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
B
itchell hated CullenCullen was brokenFTFY
No he wasn't, he wasn't Cullen 1996 but he was the best fullback going in Super in 2003.
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blatant revisionism
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
blatant revisionism
you're trolling, but you should lift your game more and claim that Ben Blair was clearly a better player than Cullen 03
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Cullen had the misfortune of being compared to himself in his hey day rather than against other players, he was definitely the best fullback in 03 but he didn't have much left in him at that stage. I think we could have gotten another season out of him, but begrudgingly can see why they wanted to look forward given his injuries. His treatment by Bitchell was unforgiveable for an AB great to be cast aside the way he was though.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
blatant revisionism
you're trolling, but you should lift your game more and claim that Ben Blair was clearly a better player than Cullen 03
but that is clearly false.
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and then we hit the 3N with Mils, Dougie and Joe and she was apples.
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So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.
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@Canes4life Kirwan is an incredible human being, and a terrible rugby coach and analyst.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.
Crikey!
I saw Ricky getting interviewed by Jeff Wilson at the weekend and Goldie was towering over him!
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JK pumping in pumping for undeserved Blues player shock
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I saw Ricky getting interviewed by Jeff Wilson at the weekend and Goldie was towering over him!
There was a game recently when a ballboy passed Riccitelli the ball, and was towering over him. Eklund is short as well.
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The latest Aotearoa Rugby pod they discuss how influential Billy Proctor is for the Canes. He's almost a certainty for the ABs this year on form coupled with the fact he's formed a formidable combination with Jordie. Reiko obviously number 1 due to experience but Billy is pushing hard. Anton is obviously there or there abouts as well.
Parsons being a hooker also thinks Asafo will be in the ABs for the next 10 years. Codie as the top dog so will start and he thinks it's currently a fight between Asafo and Samisoni for that 16 jersey. Riccitelli and Bell for ABs XV.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Not suggesting Hotham will go near ABs this year or anything. Mind you I still say I be very surprised if Christie isn't in AB squad as a 9.
I'll also be a bit surprised if Christie doesn't make it into this first selection. If I were Razor and Co. I'd be picking pretty much as much continuity as I could from last year and then slowly ease out the guys I'm less enamoured with (and slowly ease in my newbies). They're going to have at least half a dozen spots for rookies, as it is.**
In the forwards, especially, I'm inclined to think Ryan would have pretty much had everyone he wanted last year. In the backs there's probably a bit more scope for the new selectors to be thinking, "why the hell did they pick him"?
Have they ever said exactly who is on the AB selection panel? I presume Razor and Ryan (forwards coach) - which would then logically suggest Holland (backs coach)?
On Hotham, I think anyone who's starting at halfback for their Super team isn't going to be too far away from the ABs this year. They're going to pick three halfbacks, but then if someone gets an injury....
**I'm a pretty reactionary selector - Razor might be a lot more adventurous!
Razor said in an interview, Ryan was doing tighties, Himself the Loosies, Holland I think midfield , and Rangi back 3. Can't remember exactly, but said he will only make decisions when there no agreement. Was interesting to read him say no real talk with Wayne Smith and think he said they basically had different views.
