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    Mr Fish
    wrote on last edited by Mr Fish
    #1402

    Bolters or just new caps? Feel like Numia, Proctor and Love have been steadily heading in that direction over the last couple of years, I don't think their selections would be a big shock.

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    #1403

    Possible New Caps based on the first half of the season: Numia, Walker-Leawere, McWhannell, Lakai, Iose, Proctor, Nanai-Seturo, Love, Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens.

    Peter Lakai and Brayden Iose might be a bit little to play Test Rugby in the Backrow but they've been outstanding so far this season.

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    #1404

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Peter Lakai and Brayden Iose might be a bit little to play Test Rugby in the Backrow but they've been outstanding so far this season.

    They aren't locks or front row forwards

    Lakai 21 1.86 110kg
    Iose 25 1.88 105kg
    Savea 1.88/1.90 105kg
    McCaw 1.87 107kg
    Cane 32 1.89 108kg
    Kirifi 27 1.81 102kg (maybe too small)

    Lakai in particular is easily big enough for a test 7. For me that's where his future lies. I expect him to be an AB this year if his current form continues.

    Iose is playing great rugby but might be considered too small for an ideal 8. But he is about the same size as Savea. And can also play 7. But I doubt if he will make it this year. Unless there are injuries.

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    Victor Meldrew
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    #1405

    @cgrant

    Bit early, but I'm keeping my eye on Lakai, Funaki and, after today, Wallace Sititi from the Chiefs. Agree on Proctor & Love. Finau is a lock-in for me.

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    #1406

    @Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Peter Lakai and Brayden Iose might be a bit little to play Test Rugby in the Backrow but they've been outstanding so far this season.

    They aren't locks or front row forwards

    Lakai 21 1.86 110kg
    Iose 25 1.88 105kg
    Savea 1.88/1.90 105kg
    McCaw 1.87 107kg
    Cane 32 1.89 108kg
    Kirifi 27 1.81 102kg (maybe too small)

    Lakai in particular is easily big enough for a test 7. For me that's where his future lies. I expect him to be an AB this year if his current form continues.

    Iose is playing great rugby but might be considered too small for an ideal 8. But he is about the same size as Savea. And can also play 7. But I doubt if he will make it this year. Unless there are injuries.

    Savea is so versatile he can adjust his height to suit playing openside ( 1.88 ) or number 8 ( 1.9 )

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    #1407

    It's amazing compared to 12 months ago the new talent that has arrived vying for a place in the ABs.
    This year is guaranteed excitement. We could even have a loose trio of Savea, Finau and Sititi.

    The downer is knowing that NZR have given away 7.5% of the business or whatever it is and I have trouble making peace with that. It's incredible that NZR could be so short sighted. 2019-2023 was a complete and utter disaster for NZ rugby. WC excluded.

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    #1408

    Is T-cubed an option at 9 again?

    What did he do wrong?

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    #1409

    Tahuriorangi's speed of passing is still noticeably slower than it used to be. When he made the ABs in 2018 he looked to be the new Aaron Smith.

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    #1410

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Is T-cubed an option at 9 again?

    What did he do wrong?

    On the strength of one game where the opposition provided a training run?

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Is T-cubed an option at 9 again?

    What did he do wrong?

    On the strength of one game where the opposition provided a training run?

    Not sure if booboo meant because of the one game, but I wondered about the Funaki thing that I have read on forums, same thing unfortunately it hard to tell after playing such weak opposition.

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    replied to sparky on last edited by ruggabee
    #1412

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Possible New Caps based on the first half of the season: Numia, Walker-Leawere, McWhannell, Lakai, Iose, Proctor, Nanai-Seturo, Love, Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens.

    Peter Lakai and Brayden Iose might be a bit little to play Test Rugby in the Backrow but they've been outstanding so far this season.

    Iose weighs more than Sotutu and Jacobson.

    Hurricanes: Player

    and so does Lakai.

    Hurricanes: Player
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    #1413

    @Dan54 Funaki has played more than one game. Has TTT played well in other games?

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    family man
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    #1414

    @Bones I rate both finaki and TTT more than Christie to be honest. They got more X factor and passing is no worse that’s for sure

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Is T-cubed an option at 9 again?

    What did he do wrong?

    On the strength of one game where the opposition provided a training run?

    I'm trying to work out what he did wrong 2-3 years ago.

    I get Brad Weber overtook him, and I wouldn't have minded him in France in November I front of Christie ...

    But I didn't get why T3 fell out of favour.

    @Bovidae 's explanation is as good as I've seen.

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    #1416

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Is T-cubed an option at 9 again?

    What did he do wrong?

    On the strength of one game where the opposition provided a training run?

    Not sure if booboo meant because of the one game, but I wondered about the Funaki thing that I have read on forums, same thing unfortunately it hard to tell after playing such weak opposition.

    Here.

    I've counted Funaki in based on one game, this is absolutely true :), but I can't work out why T-cube forced his way out.

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    Bones
    replied to booboo on last edited by
    #1417

    @booboo dunno if he did anything more wrong than, say, Brett Cameron.

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    replied to Bones on last edited by
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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @booboo dunno if he did anything more wrong than, say, Brett Cameron.

    Harsh.

    Can't see where he played himself out.

    Any conspiracy theories?

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    @Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Iose is playing great rugby but might be considered too small for an ideal 8. But he is about the same size as Savea. And can also play 7. But I doubt if he will make it this year. Unless there are injuries.

    I like what I've seen of him. I think he could grow into an Ardie type - he doesn't look too small on TV. The only problem for him is NZ is blessed with loose forwards; there's serious competition.

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    ruggabee
    replied to booboo on last edited by ruggabee
    #1420

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Is T-cubed an option at 9 again?

    What did he do wrong?

    On the strength of one game where the opposition provided a training run?

    I'm trying to work out what he did wrong 2-3 years ago.

    I get Brad Weber overtook him, and I wouldn't have minded him in France in November I front of Christie ...

    But I didn't get why T3 fell out of favour.

    Bryn Hall was probably the most hard done by between 2018-2022, he actually offered a point of difference compared to the others being a much bigger halfback. Also the Crusaders looked like a different team after his departure (Blues 2022 final) ever since Crusaders have sorely missed his influence.

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    #1421

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @booboo dunno if he did anything more wrong than, say, Brett Cameron.

    Harsh.

    Can't see where he played himself out.

    Any conspiracy theories?

    From what I remember he only got game time with the Chiefs when Weber was injured. Made the ABs based on that, then never really started ahead of Weber back at the Chiefs the next year.

    So maybe not being as good as other halfbacks was his issue? Leading to less game time, which lead to a drop in performance.

    Either that or Hansen and Fozzie didn't want to be caught calling him 'Trip' instead of his full name again.

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