• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
allblacksspringboks
2.8k Posts 123 Posters 380.6k Views
RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • B Offline
    B Offline
    bayimports
    replied to canefan on last edited by
    #2749

    @canefan said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    It is straightforward, but errors are made in high pressure situations like a RWC final. Something the officials are not immune too.

    Good on Stuff for keeping this is in the news. This has a long way to run. It’s only been a few weeks since the final. Four more years!

    Barnes? Sure. Foley was in a room with at least one other person, in front of a TV screen. I would argue he and his buddies have less excuse

    agree Foley can seemingly find lots of innocuous things when a NZ player has infringed. He should own his miss and learn to shut the fuck up for a change.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • A Offline
    A Offline
    akan004
    wrote on last edited by
    #2750

    How can a TMO be so ignorant of the laws? Many of us questioned it at the time and we aren't being paid to study the laws. Amateur hour.

    1 Reply Last reply
    7
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by
    #2751

    @ACT-Crusader all sliding doors anyway, we scored not long after anyway, so who knows what woulda happened if it had (rightfully) stood...they coulda hit back with a try of thier own, we could have kicked on and scored again...

    It is what it is, but agree with others that the TMO is the one who has no excuse for making basic errors like that, whereas Barnes (and others in the middle) in the heat of the moment you can give him more leeway.

    1 Reply Last reply
    5
  • OomPBO Offline
    OomPBO Offline
    OomPB
    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by
    #2752

    @ACT-Crusader 4 more years. Its a very long time.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • His BobnessH Offline
    His BobnessH Offline
    His Bobness
    wrote on last edited by His Bobness
    #2753

    The TMO system is clearly a farce. I agree entirely with Steve Hansen that it is resulting in the game being refereed in replay and I agree with Nigel Owens that is undermining the referee, in this case the best and fairest in the world. How typical, also, that World Rugby is saying nothing on the record about this. They love talking about accountability and transparency but never practise it themselves, preferring to leave the professionals appointed to adjudicate the game to take all the flak when they are just doing their jobs. Nothing can take away from the Springboks victory. They deserved it for their dogged defence and smart game management. But it rankles when such fundamental errors are made, and no-one wants to admit the mistake. That leaves a bad smell around the code and in its greatest single showcase, no less. If I were a lawyer I’d be thinking about a class action to clear out that board.

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • His BobnessH Offline
    His BobnessH Offline
    His Bobness
    replied to Duluth on last edited by His Bobness
    #2754

    @Duluth A rather large whoopsie, though, wouldn’t you say? “Oh dear, we said we wouldn’t invade Poland but we did. And oh, we started another World War. Sorry about that.”

    BonesB 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • BonesB Online
    BonesB Online
    Bones
    replied to His Bobness on last edited by
    #2755

    @His-Bobness His Godwiness!

    His BobnessH 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • His BobnessH Offline
    His BobnessH Offline
    His Bobness
    replied to booboo on last edited by
    #2756

    @booboo In law, making a mistake in the process precludes the possibility of a correct decision. That’s how appeal lawyers win cases. Conversely, while a proper application of process does not automatically imply a correct decision, it makes it harder to argue for a reversal unless you have other evidence. In this case, the process was incorrect. The try should have stood. If you say the decision was ‘correct’ we get back to subjective judgements and arguments about who is in charge here.

    SmutsS 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • His BobnessH Offline
    His BobnessH Offline
    His Bobness
    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #2757

    @Bones Godwin Schmozmin

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • nostrildamusN Offline
    nostrildamusN Offline
    nostrildamus Banned
    wrote on last edited by
    #2758

    It is fine to invade Poland if within 2 phases?
    Id say a good outcome would be that TMO retiring.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • OomPBO Offline
    OomPBO Offline
    OomPB
    wrote on last edited by
    #2759

    "Stuff understands World Rugby has privately acknowledged to the All Blacks"

    Stuff dont understand.

    CatograndeC 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • CatograndeC Offline
    CatograndeC Offline
    Catogrande
    replied to OomPB on last edited by Catogrande
    #2760

    @OomPB said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    "Stuff understands World Rugby has privately acknowledged to the All Blacks"

    Stuff dont understand.

    There’s a whole thread on here about how god awful Stuff is 😬

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • SmutsS Offline
    SmutsS Offline
    Smuts
    replied to His Bobness on last edited by
    #2761

    @His-Bobness said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @booboo In law, making a mistake in the process precludes the possibility of a correct decision. That’s how appeal lawyers win cases. Conversely, while a proper application of process does not automatically imply a correct decision, it makes it harder to argue for a reversal unless you have other evidence. In this case, the process was incorrect. The try should have stood. If you say the decision was ‘correct’ we get back to subjective judgements and arguments about who is in charge here.

    You’re right that ref needs to remain the sole judge of the laws on the field.

    And I endorse your implicit call for us all to accept and embrace that they are going to get things wrong and that’s a fundamental part of the game.

    Glad that’s sorted out. Can we please start talking about the rugby?

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • W Offline
    W Offline
    W32
    wrote on last edited by
    #2762

    Wayne Barnes talks about the game and other things.

    PodBean Development

    Wayne Barnes on the sofa

    Wayne Barnes on the sofa

    Wayne Barnes, one of the greatest rugby referees in history, joins Chris, Ugo and Ashy on the sofa. Barnes retired from officiating after taking charge of the Rugby World Cup final, his 111th international match. He reflects on his magnificent career, which games stick in the memory, and why a...

    menceyM 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • menceyM Offline
    menceyM Offline
    mencey
    replied to W32 on last edited by
    #2763

    @W32 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    Wayne Barnes talks about the game and other things.

    PodBean Development

    Wayne Barnes on the sofa

    Wayne Barnes on the sofa

    Wayne Barnes, one of the greatest rugby referees in history, joins Chris, Ugo and Ashy on the sofa. Barnes retired from officiating after taking charge of the Rugby World Cup final, his 111th international match. He reflects on his magnificent career, which games stick in the memory, and why a...

    Greatest referees my ass. Enough said !!

    W D MN5M 3 Replies Last reply
    3
  • W Offline
    W Offline
    W32
    replied to mencey on last edited by
    #2764

    @mencey worth a listen. Talks about Savea penalty

    TordahT 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • D Offline
    D Offline
    DaGrubster
    replied to mencey on last edited by
    #2765

    @mencey

    Honestly, I am glad to see the back of him

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • TordahT Offline
    TordahT Offline
    Tordah
    replied to W32 on last edited by
    #2766

    @W32 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @mencey worth a listen. Talks about Savea penalty

    Too long for me to listen to. Care to summarize that specific part? It's the least you can do after winning the cup. 🙂 Thanks a lot

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • W Offline
    W Offline
    W32
    wrote on last edited by
    #2767

    Basically he says he didn’t think Savea came off enough, but didn’t want to get embroiled in a discussion about it.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • MN5M Online
    MN5M Online
    MN5
    replied to mencey on last edited by
    #2768

    @mencey said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @W32 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    Wayne Barnes talks about the game and other things.

    PodBean Development

    Wayne Barnes on the sofa

    Wayne Barnes on the sofa

    Wayne Barnes, one of the greatest rugby referees in history, joins Chris, Ugo and Ashy on the sofa. Barnes retired from officiating after taking charge of the Rugby World Cup final, his 111th international match. He reflects on his magnificent career, which games stick in the memory, and why a...

    Greatest referees my ass. Enough said !!

    I find that a contradiction in terms. A referee in any sport is there to be as unnoticed as possible and do a fucken job. Not “be great”. Part of the reason I found Bill Bowdens “antics” really tiresome. We’re there to watch cricket, not him.

    Sure it’s a thankless job but don’t sign up for it if you’re not up to it.

    BonesB 1 Reply Last reply
    1

RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks
Rugby Matches
allblacksspringboks
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.