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    @Tordah ah Marius. Consistency personified.

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    All we ask for is consistency around the issuing of cards. I bet we don't get it across the other QFs.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    @Dodge said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    I’ve literally no idea what the ref is going to give anymore. That could have been red, in the end not even a penalty. Weird

    It was the decision I'd like to see in a game - no intent. But in the context of how things have been reffed it was mind-boggling.

    If something has changed, why haven't we, the punters, been told? Have the players?

    If I drive my car at 100 through a school crossing but try to avoid the kids, that's ok because I didn't intend to hit them, right?

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    @sparky let's hope South win all 4 !

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    Agree with Dickson there. Player was held up, he came in legally. ‘Tina player saw it coming and pulled it down leaving Tompkins in the way.

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    Sad end to for Dan Biggar. Congrats to him on a fab international career.

    One NH fly half great has been retired this weekend 😬

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    @Wairau said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    @sparky let's hope South win all 4 !

    This Welshman would be happy to see you take 3 - need France to see off the boks

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    @GibbonRib said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    If I drive my car at 100 through a school crossing but try to avoid the kids, that's ok because I didn't intend to hit them, right?

    I think a better analogy might driving at 30mph near a school crossing expecting to be nicked as you think the speed limit is 20mph, as no-one told you the speed limit had been raised to 30mph.

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    @game_film said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    Agree with Dickson there. Player was held up, he came in legally. ‘Tina player saw it coming and pulled it down leaving Tompkins in the way.

    Player came in out of control, at chest height, unsighted, at speed to a breakdown, with people are typically bent to chest height or lower.

    Just have some fucking restraint and use your brain.

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    @Bones It wasn’t really a breakdown yet though. Tina player wasn’t on the deck, he caused the drop in height late doors when he got off the train tracks. I was very surprised to see the outcome though.

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    @game_film

    I'm with you on this. Just. Just, about the right decision but a long way away from any degree of consistency.

    My view on the game itself was that it was the Argy breakdown and the Welsh discipline that determined the outcome.

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    @Bovidae said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    The difference has been the relative impact from the reserves.

    The difference was Dickson and Jonker

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    @Dodge said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    I’ve literally no idea what the ref is going to give anymore. That could have been red, in the end not even a penalty. Weird

    It was the decision I'd like to see in a game - no intent. But in the context of how things have been reffed it was mind-boggling.

    If something has changed, why haven't we, the punters, been told? Have the players?

    Fuck that

    Have another look

    He came at pace, from depth, and hit Tompkins square in the head with a leading shoulder

    How can an independent official order Tompkins off for an HIA and the officiating team not even award a penalty?

    We get at least a penalty and Argentina don’t score the try

    Losing Tompkins for 10 mins killed our backline

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    @Bones said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    That poor kid. He's going to get his arse kicked from china to LA by Biggar.

    Between Biggar limping and retiring after this game, maybe he'll be fine...

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    @MiketheSnow

    Don't disagree it was a shit/weird/mind-boggling decision. If you are going to ref using these guidelines - i.e. no intent - then, FFS, make it clear before you start reffing that way.

    My abiding memory of this RWC could well be the standard of officiating. Been poor.

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    @Dodge said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    @Bones said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    @Damo said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    I'm OK with that. It looked bad at first but the player dipped suddenly. Not consistently refereed like that.

    That's a sloppy as fuck clean out, reckless and dangerous

    I’ve literally no idea what the ref is going to give anymore. That could have been red, in the end not even a penalty. Weird

    My feelings the same

    Commiserafions @MiketheSnow @GibbonRib

    Argie looked gone after 25 minutes or so. Impressive to fight their way back.

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    @game_film said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

    @Bones It wasn’t really a breakdown yet though. Tina player wasn’t on the deck, he caused the drop in height late doors when he got off the train tracks. I was very surprised to see the outcome though.

    If it wasn't a breakdown, what was he doing cleaning out?

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    @Bones I think it was reffed as a tackle as Dickson said that both players were dropping and the Argentinian player had clearly attempted to go low. The problem was there was clear dead contact so that puts the minimum sanction as a yellow card I believe.

    I suspect it is a repeat of the 2019 knockout games where there is any slight mitigation, they avoid carding players but I suspect that I will be proved wrong before the end of the weekend.

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    My only hope is both Dickson and Jonker will be heading home tomorrow too so that no other team has to cop their ineptitude

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