Canes vs Chiefs
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<p>Hang on though. You aren't comparing apples with apples. I wouldn't say that Ardie offers a lot more, he offers something different.</p>
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<p>I have no doubt that the ABs will be looking for what he can offer them in their setup but at the moment what BSG says is correct. Cane is playing well enough for the selectors to not be jumping at other options. The investment they have in him as a player and leader is ready to be harvested.</p>
<p>Ardie as the bench player makes more sense. </p>
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<p>That why this one match up will be worth matching the game for. It will show how Ardie stacks up against NZ's no 1 at present. As long as everything else is equal. My slight concern is the lock match up with maybe two 1st yr starters. But otherwise the Canes are OK. Strong in most position and I think the midfield will be OK</p> -
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Ardie Savea is the new Victor Vito</p></blockquote>
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Based on your comments have you actually seen Ardie play?? He's far better than Vito. Ardie actually puts his head in dark places on a consistant basis, he doesn't pick and choose like Vito has done most of his career. -
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Finally someone with a bit of sense.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Canes4life" data-cid="573209" data-time="1460949287"><p>
Does anyone know if Savea has a clause for Sevens. Like if he gets picked for the All Blacks can he choose to play for them or is he fully committed to Sevens?? <br><br>
Personally id rather see him stay and play 15s.</p></blockquote>
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Rather he stuck by his word and plays 7s. He's made a commitment. <br><br>
If he's as good as you think he'll tour at the EOYT (along with both Ioanes).<br><br>
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slight tangent: My main concern is the midfield and the cohesion of the 10/12/13. We have the players and several very good options in all three positions, but there will be questions about how they come together and build a combination.<br><br>
We saw on that 2013 EOYT against France, Ireland and England that we had some scratchy performances when the coaches went with Ben Smith at centre. I won't have an issue with whoever they go with - Fekitoa, Crotty, or possible newbies like Ngatai, etc but I anticipate we may be up for some more scratchy performances.</p></blockquote>
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Agree ACTC. 12-13 is our <em>potential</em> weak link.<br><br>
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On that note - Fatialofa is looking good IMO, definitely cuts the mustard defence-wise.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Any of you blokes actually watch the crusaders this year?</p>
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<p>Read is having his best season in quite a few years, and I wouldn't argue if Todd had been named man of the match in his last 3 games.</p>
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<p>no</p>
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<p>The midfield next year of A Savea and A Ioane will go well for quite a few years.</p>
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<p>Read my mind bro. imagine this 10/12/13 trio....</p>
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<p>10. Israel "I've found my running mojo, but still have stupid facial expressions" Dagg</p>
<p>12. Ardie "I might be a ripped midget but I put my head in dark places" Savea</p>
<p>13. Akira "I want to fight you after I've fended you and two of your teammates off" Ioane</p> -
<p>Shame Vito is leaving, he could go on the wing!</p>
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<p>Read my mind bro. imagine this 10/12/13 trio....</p>
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<p>10. Israel "I've found my running mojo, but still have stupid facial expressions" Dagg</p>
<p>12. Ardie "I might be a ripped midget but I put my head in dark places" Savea</p>
<p>13. Akira "I want to fight you after I've fended you and two of your teammates off" Ioane</p>
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<p>Hahaha these are funny but I wouldnt say 6'2 Savea is a midget. Dagg reminds me of Dan Vettori - I swear when they pull out the tongue they perform a couple notches higher than when its hidden away.</p> -
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<p>Hahaha these are funny but I wouldnt say 6'2 Savea is a midget. Dagg reminds me of Dan Vettori - I swear when they pull out the tongue they perform a couple notches higher than when its hidden away.</p>
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<p>If he's 6 foot 2 then I'm 6 foot 6......</p>
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<p>Of all those "coulda been" guys it's hard not to think of Roy Kinikinilau, that guy fell off the face of the earth after taking the Sevens world by storm though.....</p> -
Ardie 6'2, that must be measuring the top of his hair...
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<p>If he's 6 foot 2 then I'm 6 foot 6......</p>
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<p>Of all those "coulda been" guys it's hard not to think of Roy Kinikinilau, that guy fell off the face of the earth after taking the Sevens world by storm though.....</p>
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<p>Sweet, that must make 5 ft 8 and a half then, happy days.</p>
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<p>Actually, I was looking for pics of Ardie and Julian together because they tend to appear the same height when next to each other - I didn't find one of them together, but did discover Julian's missus. Damn. To paraphrase myself - that's one Muslim even BSG would like. ;)</p> -
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<p>Sweet, that must make 5 ft 8 and a half then, happy days.</p>
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<p><strong>Actually, I was looking for pics of Ardie and Julian together because they tend to appear the same height</strong> when next to each other - I didn't find one of them together, but did discover Julian's missus. Damn. To paraphrase myself - that's one Muslim even BSG would like. ;)</p>
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<p>Don't think this one helps :biggrin:</p>
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<p>but maybe this one does?</p>
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<p>Im 6'2. He is 6'2 ive had lunch with the guy. Stop looking at your short flat screens making the players look chubby and dwarf like. J Savea is 6,3 and Ards is 6,19 to be technical.</p>
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<p>Im <strike>6'2</strike> 5'10". He is <strike>6'2</strike> possibly a bit taller.....ive <strike>had lunch with</strike> stalked the guy. Stop looking at your short flat screens making the players look chubby and dwarf like. J Savea is <strike>6,3</strike> 6'2" and Ards is <strike>6,19</strike> considerably shorter to be technical.</p>
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<p>fixed</p>
