RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@pakman said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@pakman said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@pakman Irish are vulnerable at TH because they have to play Furlong deep into game and by 55 he’ll be pretty knackered.
Comedy Gold
Ox Nche says hi.
They're not playing SA again until the Final
Now THAT is comedy gold.
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Pretty logical selection.
Rest Reiko and some tired forwards, gets Sam & SF up to speed, more game-time for Roigard with RMo and see how DMac goes a-playmaking with RMo. Lack of midfield cover interesting though.
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@Bones said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
Either you have a vagina or you're going on a road trip
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@pakman said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@pakman said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@pakman said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@pakman Irish are vulnerable at TH because they have to play Furlong deep into game and by 55 he’ll be pretty knackered.
Comedy Gold
Ox Nche says hi.
They're not playing SA again until the Final
Now THAT is comedy gold.
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@Bovidae so the probable starting 15 would have played together once in 6 weeks going into a QF against a team we need aoad of luck and cohesion to beat? FML.
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So who leads the haka? Codie?
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@scribe said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
So who leads the haka? Codie?
McGOAT lead it so why can't NotMcGOAT?
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If I am.going to read too much into this, it's that Cam starting means he has moved past Finlay.
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Beauden must have it written in his contract that he has to be in the 23.
If Havili isn't involved in this game, his RWC is done.
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Sorry guys, I’m working Thursday evening so I won’t be able to watch this one.
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@Joans-Town-Jones Are you Steve Hansen?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
Pretty logical selection.
Rest Reiko and some tired forwards, gets Sam & SF up to speed, more game-time for Roigard with RMo and see how DMac goes a-playmaking with RMo. Lack of midfield cover interesting though.
I would think LF is midfield cover. Any problem at 12 ALB and LF just move in one? I torn between liking the changes and not, like the idea of the 1st team running together, but also like the idea of probable replacements having some game time. I wouldn't mind seeing Blackadder get some decent time, I personally would have him on bench ahead of Papali'i in QF.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
If I am.going to read too much into this, it's that Cam starting means he has moved past Finlay.
We can only hope
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
If I am.going to read too much into this, it's that Cam starting means he has moved past Finlay.
His selection on the bench vs Italy and then subsequent play off of the bench vs Italy sealed it - even for Foz.
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Resting David Havili for the big games by the looks of things
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For all the complaining about Roigard, I'd say the coaches have done a great job introducing him to test footy. They haven't rushed him, he's made every post a winner with game time increasing each test, and now has stacks of confidence going into the finals. TBH I thought the RWC was a year too soon for him to get established, but we now have a real weapon to bring off the bench that other teams have not had a good look at.
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Other than that, who knows re: selections, the ABs will be more focused on what they are doing off the pitch right now, so each selection would have been based on each individual player and whether another hit out will do them good before the quarter.
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@pakman said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Joans-Town-Jones Are you Steve Hansen?
Flushed that dunny and moved on.
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@george33 said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@MN5 Havilli is injured
Don’t ruin my fun with your “facts”
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No quibbles at all with that selection
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I'm surprised that some posters expected (or wanted) the A team to run out this week. Was never going to happen.
I'm genuinely surprised the messiah isn't starting though.
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@Nepia said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I'm surprised that some posters expected (or wanted) the A team to run out this week. Was never going to happen.
I'm genuinely surprised the messiah isn't starting though.
If he did the Uruguayans ( is that even a word ? ) would retire the moment the game was over
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@No-Quarter said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
For all the complaining about Roigard, I'd say the coaches have done a great job introducing him to test footy. They haven't rushed him, he's made every post a winner with game time increasing each test, and now has stacks of confidence going into the finals. TBH I thought the RWC was a year too soon for him to get established, but we now have a real weapon to bring off the bench that other teams have not had a good look at.
This is partially true, but I think you could only credit the coaches if they'd actually used a decent halfback in front of him (e.g Weber).
This is a bit like when the Blackcaps picked Will Young over Devon Conway, because he'd been in NZ longer, before relenting for the WTC Final, and lone behold Conway was way better.
Pick your best players, end of.
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Finlay Christie to have a stormer, scoring two tries to earn himself a spot on the bench for the quarters.
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@pakman said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@pakman Irish are vulnerable at TH because they have to play Furlong deep into game and by 55 he’ll be pretty knackered.
Haha, one of the funniest ones I’ve read for a while. Furlong could easily go 80.
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Joans Town Jones Bannedreplied to Nepia on 4 Oct 2023, 01:02 last edited by Joans Town Jones 4 Oct 2023, 01:06
@Nepia said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I'm surprised that some posters expected (or wanted) the A team to run out this week. Was never going to happen.
I'm genuinely surprised the messiah isn't starting though.
So you not want to heed the lessons from 2007, 2019? Because by the QF the A side would have played once in 7 weeks.
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@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Bovidae said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
With no midfield cover on the bench, will Jordie and ALB play 80 minutes, or will they take ALB off and move Fainga'anuku to 13, when Clarke comes on?
Also wondering what will happen when BB comes on. Will Richie or Dmac be subbed; if Richie, I assume Dmac will move to 10?
It will also be interesting who goes off when Blackadder comes on. I assume Cane, because he hardly plays 80 minutes anymore?
I reckon Cane plays 80. Hasn’t played a huge amount.
Jordie also has missed time so needs the run. Clarke will probably replace Will Jordan. Fainga’anuku will play 80.
DMac will play 80.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Nepia said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I'm surprised that some posters expected (or wanted) the A team to run out this week. Was never going to happen.
I'm genuinely surprised the messiah isn't starting though.
So you not want to heed the lessons from 2007, 2019? Because by the QF the A side would have played once in 7 weeks.
2015 the top team pretty much played 3 of 4 pool games. That's what we should be doing, with tweaks but not wholesale changes liked this.
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Nepia said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I'm surprised that some posters expected (or wanted) the A team to run out this week. Was never going to happen.
I'm genuinely surprised the messiah isn't starting though.
So you not want to heed the lessons from 2007, 2019? Because by the QF the A side would have played once in 7 weeks.
2015 the top team pretty much played 3 of 4 pool games. That's what we should be doing, with tweaks but not wholesale changes liked this.
Yeah wasn't Hansen praised for this. They didn't taper until the final week or something. I would say this ended up being a rather successful strategy!
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@Rancid-Schnitzel problem is, Fozzie has pretty much painted himself into a corner with his support for many players, that coming into the SA game, many players were getting short of game time, he wanted that to be a statement game (which it was) and then painted further into the corner vs the French, and then the Italy game was not the contest they hoped so really in a no win situation, opening players up for injury (or more likely given our discipline, suspension)
We certainly dont need any injury to key players as thier understudies will be largely undercooked.
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@taniwharugby is that really Ian Foster's fault though?
When your understudies are Ofa and Laulala and Vai'i and Jacobson and Havili and ALB and it's super apparent that your top 23 (who, incidentally, have all played a lot of rugby together) is all you've got, i would be cotton-wooling where i can as well.
We're a couple of key injuries/red cards from a 30-point quarter final drubbing, simply because in certain positions the guys waiting to step in are a mile behind the incumbents
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
2015 the top team pretty much played 3 of 4 pool games. That's what we should be doing, with tweaks but not wholesale changes liked this.
I had a look at that last night and there was still quite a bit of rotation in the selection of the teams that played the three lesser teams after the opening pool game against Argentina. Your plan is really dependent on the sequence of games, and the relative strength of the others teams in your pool.
Also, two less players to have to play in 2015.
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@mariner4life said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@taniwharugby is that really Ian Foster's fault though?
When your understudies are Ofa and Laulala and Vai'i and Jacobson and Havili and ALB and it's super apparent that your top 23 (who, incidentally, have all played a lot of rugby together) is all you've got, i would be cotton-wooling where i can as well.
We're a couple of key injuries/red cards from a 30-point quarter final drubbing, simply because in certain positions the guys waiting to step in are a mile behind the incumbents
i think its his fault that those second string guys are going to be rusty as well as a step down in quality, i definitely cant think of too many that have grown once joining the AB's...lots of guys seem to be getting worse
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@mariner4life I think it is a longer term issue that he got himself into this predicament in that he was pretty much fighting for his job since day 1 so was unwilling or unable to try to genuinely develop talent behind the encumbants, and at the end of 2022 we saw more than daylight between say AS and next cab...fortunate that Roigard has emerged to close that gap, but even so you could argue he was introduced slower than he needed to be, particularly with how Christie has played.
Not saying it is all his doing, but I dont think he has helped himself with some of his decisions and seemingly blind faith for some players.
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@Kiwiwomble said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@taniwharugby is that really Ian Foster's fault though?
When your understudies are Ofa and Laulala and Vai'i and Jacobson and Havili and ALB and it's super apparent that your top 23 (who, incidentally, have all played a lot of rugby together) is all you've got, i would be cotton-wooling where i can as well.
We're a couple of key injuries/red cards from a 30-point quarter final drubbing, simply because in certain positions the guys waiting to step in are a mile behind the incumbents
i think its his fault that those second string guys are going to be rusty as well as a step down in quality, i definitely cant think of too many that have grown once joining the AB's...lots of guys seem to be getting worse
So the alternative for Fozzie is to give more time to guys clearly not up to standard at the expense of the preferred starters?
This forum is growing into the "I don't care what Foster does, it's wrong" club.
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