RWC Week 1: England v Argentina
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Great description of England from the Guardian:
“ Their team have turned up for the biggest party in the sport in a work shirt, a sensible pair of shoes and with hours of chat about the best way to navigate around the roadworks on the way back. God, but you don’t want to get stuck in a corner with them. Which was exactly the mistake Argentina made.”
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@Kirwan said in RWC: England v Argentina:
How anyone can think that game was boring is beyond me.
1 million %
It’s getting really fucking old that certain posters think that if Meg can’t say ‘razzle dazzle’ 10 times a match then the match is not worth watching
This was chess of the highest order, which will always frustrate those who can only play & appreciate draughts
He might have said boomfa when Curry got his card though ?
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@Kirwan said in RWC: England v Argentina:
How anyone can think that game was boring is beyond me.
1 million %
It’s getting really fucking old that certain posters think that if Meg can’t say ‘razzle dazzle’ 10 times a match then the match is not worth watching
This was chess of the highest order, which will always frustrate those who can only play & appreciate draughts
With you Mike, I never took eyes off the game. Mid you I one of those dinosaurs who think one of the beauties of our game is the different ways you can play it'
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That was a painful display from Argentina. Was expecting far more from them which failed to materialise, truly awful.
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@pooler-fan said in RWC: England v Argentina:
That was a painful display from Argentina. Was expecting far more from them which failed to materialise, truly awful.
England probably couldn't believe their luck.Argentina played poor, but a lot of that was England’s fault.
Calling England lucky us just wrong.
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@NTA That's generally how games are won...
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@chimoaus Or, alternatively, learn how to tackle.
One of the arguments in favour of the 20 minute replacement is that an early red penalises the team for the mistake of one player.
But in the case of England, it's clearly a systematic, recurring, collective problem.
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Somebody needs to check these referees assets... Because it looks like Beaumont definitely organised one of those confiscated Russian oligarchs motor yachts in the south of France for last night‘s performance...
Seriously though…Makes a complete mockery of the rulebook. One thing being reffed for one team at the breakdown and the complete opposite for the other team. Really feel for argies. Disgusting … -
@Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v Argentina:
YC for a complete accident. Even my daughter said so.
I hope you explained to her that it doesn't need to be deliberate to deserve a red
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@Catogrande Please tell certain sections of the NZ media that.
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I'm surprised by the red card reaction. It's clearly head on head so potentially really harmful, and on a guy who is landing from catching a kick - it's not like he's changing direction unexpectedly at the last minute. you have time to go lower and no reason not to.
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@reprobate said in RWC: England v Argentina:
I'm surprised by the red card reaction. It's clearly head on head so potentially really harmful, and on a guy who is landing from catching a kick - it's not like he's changing direction unexpectedly at the last minute. you have time to go lower and no reason not to.
I keep going back and forth on the Curry RC. At first I felt it was just a rugby incident and not even a penalty. Why? Well in real time I felt that he'd made the wrap, he had lowered his body height to a degree and had not tried to make a dominant tackle - ie no real momentum coming from Curry. In slo-mo I changed my view slightly in that he could have/should have either gone lower or waited a fraction of a second and then the timing would have been so much better. However I still go back to the lack of force and momentum from Curry and overall, while not entirely surprised at the RC given current protocols, that a YC would have been the correct decision. The Carreras YC looked a lot worse but I felt was dealt with correctly.
It will be interesting to see what happens to Curry next. Will he get a ban or will it be like Steward's RC where it was felt the card itself was punishment enough - effectively saying the decision was wrong.
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@Catogrande said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@NTA That's generally how games are won...
In terms of "tries are nice, but like Owen Farrell, you don't really need them"
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@Catogrande yeah it's pretty clear - why was he going in so high? If he wants to smoke the catcher, get low and blast through at waist height. If that's not his intention, then he needs to stop and assess what happens once the player lands. This is exactly the incident type that needs to be removed from the game and it's so easily resolved, players shouldn't be let off for something so easy to get right.
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I’m mostly in agreement with you, certainly about the avoidability of it all. However I just don’t think it was that bad. The interesting thing now, as I said, Will be what the fallout will be. It seems to be a bit random. Barrett leads with his shoulder, with force, to clear a ruck and no further sanction. Not sure what happened to Fagerson for the same offence, etc.
