NZR review
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@Bovidae said in NZR review:
@Tim said in NZR review:
So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...
I'm waiting for an official announcement, not the word of the Sweatie journo. But then I go to the home NPC games.
I will wait official announcement, but I'm kind of torn both ways.
Without sky pulling strings we will have a lot more day games , much better for crowds, and also think we will find it getting picked up by FTA. There has already been hints that NPC comp wants a tie in with FTA/TVI. Who are getting into sports with cricker etc. -
@Dan54 said in NZR review:
Without sky pulling strings we will have a lot more day games
Good point. More family friendly and better weather.
If this happens Sky will lose subscribers but they will have done the maths and probably save money. They've already pissed off the Netball community.
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“One company comes along and says ‘here’s nine people but none of them have built a house before but trust us we know what we’re doing’. The next company comes along and six haven’t built a house but three have had some association with building a deck. The final company has three licensed builders with 10 years’ experience. Common sense says you pick the final company.
“The same logic applies here.”
Yeah because running a multi million international product is exactly the same as building a deck. This really shows why provincial admin need to step back, they really are provincial
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On the NPC v NRL chat, the big difference is that Sky's costs for the NRL would be considerably less because Sky are also in charge of producing the broadcast for the NPC, whereas they would largely just be buying the rights for NRL matches.
So even if the benefits of broadcasting the NPC slightly outweigh the benefits of broadcasting the NRL, the costs are incomparable.
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@Machpants said in NZR review:
At $400000 per match, I'm not surprised they are stopping televising. That's crazy money
I would think there an extra zero on that somehow.
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@Dan54 Nope, multiple cameras, set ups for TMO etc, transport of all the gear. It's ridiculously expensive to do a full coverage.
EDIT: sorry that includes player payments, coverage is only 200k. I just remembered the 400k
"In round figures this amounts to a per match cost of $200k, not including player payments.” ..."Average paying attendance is 2000 tickets"
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feels like an opportunity to set up even a single camera streaming service, lower leagues of EFL dont get full coverage so have the iFollow app which is far from perfect but i still pay to watch it rather than not at all
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I hope the provincial unions fight like hell to keep their three members. Don't throw it away as they will never get them back
And I hope Reddy leaves too. And takes her diversity (discrimination) views with her.
“For me it's being honest, it's being upfront with the provincial unions in the first instance, but also the wider rugby stakeholders - and indeed the public - to say that one of the principles that I firmly believe in is the time is right to have not only a diverse board, not only a board that has the opportunity for constructive feedback from a wider range of stakeholders, but a board that has that an independent position, all appointed through the same appointments process.
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I think this is the start of NZ rugby circling the drain from a financial perspective.
SANZAR fell apart and SA took their money with them, super rugby can't seem to viably grow outside of Aus and NZ.
NPC folding for financial reasons which will have wider ramifications on the game than we seem to think it will.
It just looks like a bad course, with no good news.
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The New Zealand Rugby (NZR) Board has today publicly released a proposal to change the sport’s leadership structure and create generational change for the game.
Board Chair Dame Patsy Reddy has presented the Board’s Governance model to NZR’s voting members, the 26 Provincial Unions and the New Zealand Māori Rugby Board (NZMRB).
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i think NZR has a lot of answer for over the last 25 years....they've pushed the idea that only the topflight/highest level is worth our time to watch, we should compare local club rugby to the AB's and laugh at how much worse they are...rather than encouraging us to enjoy all levels for what they are
I was talking to this american dude a few years ago, he was from a city (i cant remember which one) that didnt have a professional sports team (not NFL, NBA, NHL or MLB)...but was still multiple hundred thousand size....i asked who he supported and he had a soft spot for teams in each comp....but he said he went to local high school and college/uni games and loved it, memberships, travelled to away games every so often...he enjoyed the sports in general rather than worrying about how "good" they were....thats where we should have gone for the fans whilst encouraging the players to be there best
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@Kiwiwomble said in NZR review:
thats where we should have gone for the fans whilst encouraging the players to be there best
a beautiful sentiment that runs straight in to the reality of
Spend 4 months supporting the Chiefs. Then go support Bay of Plenty. While at the same time watching the All Blacks. And maybe a club as well. Same sport begging for you to support 4 different teams.
Throw in supporters who say shit like "I refuse to watch Hawkes Bay if they don't have their best players playing for them" and administrators are fucked.
You are so close to the best outcome. Play all the levels at the same time, be fucking realistic about what they are. DON'T, what ever you do, just turn them all in to glorified preseasons for the other level. Don't make the season convoluted by switching from comp to comp to comp.
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@Rapido said in NZR review:
Small mercies. I'm glad the sport of rugby became unwatchable before NZ rugby financially tanked. Otherwise I'd have been gutted about this sort of news, rather than being totally indifferent to it.
So why are you bothering to comment on it? Where and when did NZR financially tank? I must of missed something.
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@Dan54 they say NZ rugby....which i take as in the PU's or at least rugby outside the top flight...rather than NZR, and the point is fair given several unions have had financial troubles in the last 20 years
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@Kiwiwomble I understand that a few PUs have struggled a bit over the years, hell I was on a PU board in the 90s, and we were always on borderline then. But to say NZ rugby has tanked etcis a bit of a stretch. I know the trendy thing on forums is to make everything be end of the world, but wanna know something it's not. Same as posters suggesting that NPC is to be scrapped, just finding anything negative and using that.
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@Dan54 you may no more than i if you've been involved personally....but looking for the outside, a couple of gone into administration or gone very close and my understanding is their finances are heavily dependant on NZR...a business that cant operate on its own...well...."tanked" might be a bit of an exaggeration...but i dont think a huge one
