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  • TimT Away
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    @Nepia Now you take TJ seriously?

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    @Tim said in NZR review:

    @Nepia Now you take TJ seriously?

    When he's not commentating (Cantabs, Ta$man and Blues) and discussing his workplace I didn't see any reason not to take him seriously

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    @Tim said in NZR review:

    NZ Rugby chair Dame Patsy Reddy threatens resignation over boardroom standoff

    Let her go ahead and do it. Would she be a big loss? Although these quota's might be a factor

    And this doesn't seem unreasonable. 3 out of 9. Why is this such a big issue

    The Herald understands that Reddy, not for the first time, told the provincial unions that if they continue to push alternative proposals that seek to maintain at least three New Zealand Rugby board members with at least two years’ experience on a provincial board, she could not support it and would, therefore, resign from her post.

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    @Nepia I find it difficult to believe that NPC has more viewers than NRL.

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    @Tim said in NZR review:

    @Nepia I find it difficult to believe that NPC has more viewers than NRL.

    That's because of the hype of machine of last year. The Warriors always get ok viewership, awesome last year, but the rest of the comp generally doesn't.

    There was a Ray Morgan report from pre-covid which I had somewhere, NPC had more viewers (in it's short period) than the 20 whatever week NRL

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    @Nepia Do you have a link? Because right now you have a vaguely remembered claim from the idiot "TJ" that dates back to "pre-covid". I find that rather uncompelling.

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    @Tim said in NZR review:

    @Nepia Do you have a link? Because right now you have a vaguely remembered claim from the idiot "TJ" that dates back to "pre-covid". I find that rather uncompelling.

    Sorry, I didn't say TJ said that about the NPC and NRL, he just said good viewership at the dinner I saw him at. There was a dash in my original post separating the response to Mariner and the comment about viewership in regards to the NRL.

    Here I'll hunt it down for you.

    Rugby viewership more than double Rugby League in NZ - Roy Morgan Research

    Rugby viewership more than double Rugby League in NZ - Roy Morgan Research

    2018, a year earlier than I thought.

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    @Nepia Thanks for the link. 2021 saw the loss of the Auckland teams for the season, and 2022 the change in the structure from having two divisions, which may have hurt viewing figures.

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    @Bovidae said in NZR review:

    @Tim said in NZR review:

    So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

    I'm waiting for an official announcement, not the word of the Sweatie journo. But then I go to the home NPC games.

    I will wait official announcement, but I'm kind of torn both ways.
    Without sky pulling strings we will have a lot more day games , much better for crowds, and also think we will find it getting picked up by FTA. There has already been hints that NPC comp wants a tie in with FTA/TVI. Who are getting into sports with cricker etc.

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    @Dan54 said in NZR review:

    Without sky pulling strings we will have a lot more day games

    Good point. More family friendly and better weather.

    If this happens Sky will lose subscribers but they will have done the maths and probably save money. They've already pissed off the Netball community.

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    The provinces could end up streaming their home games. Add a few more cameras more than they do for club rugby.

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    At $400000 per match, I'm not surprised they are stopping televising. That's crazy money

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    @Bovidae said in NZR review:

    They've already pissed off the Netball community.

    All 18 of them?

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    Also

    “One company comes along and says ‘here’s nine people but none of them have built a house before but trust us we know what we’re doing’. The next company comes along and six haven’t built a house but three have had some association with building a deck. The final company has three licensed builders with 10 years’ experience. Common sense says you pick the final company.

    “The same logic applies here.”

    Yeah because running a multi million international product is exactly the same as building a deck. This really shows why provincial admin need to step back, they really are provincial

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    On the NPC v NRL chat, the big difference is that Sky's costs for the NRL would be considerably less because Sky are also in charge of producing the broadcast for the NPC, whereas they would largely just be buying the rights for NRL matches.

    So even if the benefits of broadcasting the NPC slightly outweigh the benefits of broadcasting the NRL, the costs are incomparable.

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    @Machpants said in NZR review:

    At $400000 per match, I'm not surprised they are stopping televising. That's crazy money

    I would think there an extra zero on that somehow.

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    @Dan54 Nope, multiple cameras, set ups for TMO etc, transport of all the gear. It's ridiculously expensive to do a full coverage.

    EDIT: sorry that includes player payments, coverage is only 200k. I just remembered the 400k

    "In round figures this amounts to a per match cost of $200k, not including player payments.” ..."Average paying attendance is 2000 tickets"

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    feels like an opportunity to set up even a single camera streaming service, lower leagues of EFL dont get full coverage so have the iFollow app which is far from perfect but i still pay to watch it rather than not at all

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    I hope the provincial unions fight like hell to keep their three members. Don't throw it away as they will never get them back

    And I hope Reddy leaves too. And takes her diversity (discrimination) views with her.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350227427/nz-rugby-chair-dame-patsy-reddy-says-she-prepared-quit-over-governance-battle

    “For me it's being honest, it's being upfront with the provincial unions in the first instance, but also the wider rugby stakeholders - and indeed the public - to say that one of the principles that I firmly believe in is the time is right to have not only a diverse board, not only a board that has the opportunity for constructive feedback from a wider range of stakeholders, but a board that has that an independent position, all appointed through the same appointments process.

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    I think this is the start of NZ rugby circling the drain from a financial perspective.

    SANZAR fell apart and SA took their money with them, super rugby can't seem to viably grow outside of Aus and NZ.

    NPC folding for financial reasons which will have wider ramifications on the game than we seem to think it will.

    It just looks like a bad course, with no good news.

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