All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
without Ardie saving that try we lose that game
Ardie saves one try per test match with a clutch turn over, almost every game
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
See the impression I got, is the change in play and dominance didn't really happen until Smith came on. Did Mounga do anything in the time he was on outside Christie?
I'll go back to what I said about Mendoza. Mo'unga didn't look great outside of Christie either when they both came on the field.
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(Thought I'd posted but obviously fucked it up ...)
Re the come back:
I don't think it was down to Smith and Mo'unga.The come back was on before that.
Stevenson scored with Christie and DMac on the field.
I'm putting it down to our forwards sorting their shit out.
And I'll have to watch again, but didn't think DMac went that badly.
Kinda the same thoughts re Christie, but he's my No.4 No.9 ...
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Not sure if it was necessarily the selection at fault but the way they went about it in the first half. But when you make widespread changes things can go off the tracks easier. DMac obviously had his worst game, perhaps ever. But they looked like the team we’ve come to know in the second half.
Aussies aren’t as bad as they’ve looked, but clearly when the temperature got raised they couldn’t handle it.
Second half the ABs just executed so much more precisely. Probably a good game to have, overcoming some adversity.
And well done to anyone with Oz +24.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
I felt he did yeah
Like? Even the try after he came on, it was all Smith and I think Mounga handled once, maybe twice?
Mo'unga did some really nice work under the high ball
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@Bones Are you just allergic to praising Mo'unga and criticising DMac?
It isn't that deep, DMac was crap lol, and as soon as Mo'unga came on we had tonnes more direction. Did Smith and an improved forward effort help? Sure, but Mo'unga also wasn't attempting silly cross-kicks across his own 22, running across the field and making aimless punts up the centre.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
I felt he did yeah
Like? Even the try after he came on, it was all Smith and I think Mounga handled once, maybe twice?
Mo'unga did some really nice work under the high ball
Richie had a near on flawless cameo. Overcooked one cross kick.
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@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Bones Are you just allergic to praising Mo'unga and criticising DMac?
Nah, Mounga played nicely outside Smith - shame DMac didn't get the same opportunity. No allergies, just an aversion to shit halfbacks - combined with good eyesight 😉
It isn't that deep, DMac was crap lol, and as soon as Mo'unga came on we had tonnes more direction. Did Smith and an improved forward effort help? Sure, but Mo'unga also wasn't attempting silly cross-kicks across his own 22, running across the field and making aimless punts up the centre.
You sure about that?
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I thought that was a cracking match. The Wallabies were awesome to start with, at 14-0 down I didn't think we'd done too much wrong, just hadn't been given much of a chance to get into the game.
Some of our players, DMac included, lacked a bit of composure after that and tried to do too much instead of playing percentages and waiting for opportunities to arise. We also kicked a bit too much which didn't help.
The 2nd half we dominated and could have won by more if our finishing had been more clinical. That was a really good comeback against a Wallabies side with their tails up, I wasn't sure if we had it in us given how many key personnel were missing from the 23.
Could not have asked for a better lead up to the WC. Bring on SA.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Seems to me Lomax, De Groot are our top two, Newell and WIlliams (in that order) have potential, Laulala is back in the rear, not sure exactly where I'd put Ofa, doesn't really stand out anywhere but didn't make obvious errors to me either..
Thought Ofa was really good today.
Best I've seen him.
I missed some minutes in the second half (and was on 'wow Aaron is playing really well' watch) so good to hear. I don't remember any penalties, think they were Tamati's today.
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@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Bones Are you just allergic to praising Mo'unga and criticising DMac?
@Bones has a documented Mo'unga derangement syndrome, it's easy to filter out if you're aware of it. It's sad but it's not going to change and it's best just to acknowledge it and to get on with things.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
(Thought I'd posted but obviously fucked it up ...)
Re the come back:
I don't think it was down to Smith and Mo'unga.The come back was on before that.
Stevenson scored with Christie and DMac on the field.
I'm putting it down to our forwards sorting their shit out.
And I'll have to watch again, but didn't think DMac went that badly.
Kinda the same thoughts re Christie, but he's my No.4 No.9 ...
When Mo'unga came on I said to Pakman Jr. that if we won I expected RM would get kudos, but that the AB pack had turned things around and that DMac would have looked fine playing behind that.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Steve said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Samipeni with the hard shoulder in that carry.
Did I miss something about Finau's hard shoulder?
Keeps coming up
Jason Ryan referred to picking guys with a "hard shoulder"...tough in the tackle and in the carry.
Has turned into a bit of a running gag as the reason the likes of Finau and Tamaiti are in and Sotutu Stevenson and Akira are on the outer.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Steve said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Every other Allblack winger has been mustard this year so far. Doesn't bode well
Is mustard good or bad?
Tis very good.......in lock stock and two smoking barrels parlance.
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Now watched the 2nd half, and that turnaround has everything to do with a hugely improved forward effort, much faster service (and leadership) from 9, and a 10 who was just keeping the pattern going. Mo’unga did well by not trying to do too much, and nailed his core roles with accurate passing, excellent high ball work, and ice cold goal kicking.
I imagine that the defensive stats are pretty contrasting for the 1st versus 2nd half.
Honestly, I think Dmac can play that game and did that in the opening 8 minutes of the half where he was accurate and not trying to do too much. However he also had front fall ball and back to back penalties to help get the territory, he’s got to improve and help us get that territory.
Whitelock has to be MOTM, he was just outstanding.
Finau had a fantastic debut, I loved how he took on the ball carrying during the second half.
Big shout out to Coles who I thought was also really good.
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