Australia v All Blacks - Bled I
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@Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Wurzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Proud moment for Cam and the Roigaid clan
Cam looked every bit as good at this level as at super rugby level. I hope he starts next week. Clearly the no2 HB now
Aaron Smith’s final ever match at Forsyth Barr. I reckon Cam’s on the bench again.
Cam should start a test before the RWC. He needs game time starting in case of injury. Cam looks the real deal but can he do it starting
Smith could come on to huge applause with say 20 minutes left
Plenty of players have come on as a replacement and looked a million bucks then be found wanting later. Brendan Leonard is the classic example. But Cam does look like he has a the goods. Hopefully he does because we're pretty fůcked otherwise.
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Eddie getting some stick.
Amidst the disappointment, former players and pundits have not held back in their criticism of Jones. Andy Goode, the former England flyhalf stated that the former England boss has taken the Wallabies backwards at an alarming rate, and questioned the decision to sack previous coach Dave Rennie.
“Eddie Jones has taken the Wallabies backwards quicker than I used to run to the buffet! Whoever sacked Dave Rennie at Australian Rugby needs sacking for being inept at their job!” The outspoken RugbyPass columnist said that Rennie had been ‘replaced by a clown’.
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@ACT-Crusader Yeah Papali'i got to the ball carrier but then brought him down. As long as it's still a maul he can't tackle him. I'm 80% sure that's the rule and we saw that exact thing penalised in SR this year.
It's fucking dumb though.
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I'd start Whitelock with Beast. Sub Retallick for Whitelock at 50 minutes.
ALB, Roigard and DMac in the 23.
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Cam is the 3rd option. Let him develop as such. Unless he can be outstanding and give us something we don’t have now I’d stick with Smith/Christie.
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@TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Cam is the 3rd option. Let him develop as such. Unless he can be outstanding and give us something we don’t have now I’d stick with Smith/Christie.
Roigard offered something different to Christie last night. His speed and accuracy of pass was a huge reason the ABs didnt have their typical late game fade.
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@BerniesCorner said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
I'd start Whitelock with Beast. Sub Retallick for Whitelock at 50 minutes.
ALB, Roigard and DMac in the 23.
Hoping Newell is good to go with Tamaiti.Pretty clear to me that Scooter should be the mainstay now, BBBR and Big Sam can rotate from the bench to the starters spot. It may keep both of them fresher for longer
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@Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Wurzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Proud moment for Cam and the Roigaid clan
Cam looked every bit as good at this level as at super rugby level. I hope he starts next week. Clearly the no2 HB now
Aaron Smith’s final ever match at Forsyth Barr. I reckon Cam’s on the bench again.
Cam should start a test before the RWC. He needs game time starting in case of injury. Cam looks the real deal but can he do it starting
Smith could come on to huge applause with say 20 minutes left
If Cam goes to the RWC he will get a start in one of the pool games.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Cam is the 3rd option. Let him develop as such. Unless he can be outstanding and give us something we don’t have now I’d stick with Smith/Christie.
Roigard offered something different to Christie last night. His speed and accuracy of pass was a huge reason the ABs didnt have their typical late game fade.
20mins against a fading Wallaby side down to 14 for most of that time probably isn’t a great benchmark. I think we should get away from the whole “shiny new object” whenever someone has a good cameo.
They’ve invested time into Christie. He’s performed well and now has the experience. I’d feel more comfortable with Christie coming on in a big game behind Smith rather than a raw Roigard.
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@BerniesCorner said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
I'd start Whitelock with Beast. Sub Retallick for Whitelock at 50 minutes.
ALB, Roigard and DMac in the 23.
Hoping Newell is good to go with Tamaiti.You can see the thinking behind the midfield and winger impact players whilst playing both RM and BB in your starting XV. We’ve seen it before when we used to have BB at 10 and DMac at 15 too.
For me DMac will be the starting 10 in the lesser games in the RWC and come into the first string 23 if there is injury.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Cam is the 3rd option. Let him develop as such. Unless he can be outstanding and give us something we don’t have now I’d stick with Smith/Christie.
Roigard offered something different to Christie last night. His speed and accuracy of pass was a huge reason the ABs didnt have their typical late game fade.
Agree. The team really stepped up when Roigard came on. Maybe a coincidence but maybe not. Starting him next week will give the coaches a much better idea.
He's at a different level to Christie. I think Roigard has the potential to be a future great like Smith. Christie looks only ok to me.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Wurzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Proud moment for Cam and the Roigaid clan
Cam looked every bit as good at this level as at super rugby level. I hope he starts next week. Clearly the no2 HB now
Aaron Smith’s final ever match at Forsyth Barr. I reckon Cam’s on the bench again.
Cam should start a test before the RWC. He needs game time starting in case of injury. Cam looks the real deal but can he do it starting
Smith could come on to huge applause with say 20 minutes left
If Cam goes to the RWC he will get a start in one of the pool games.
Why not next week too. Smith doesn't need game time. Roigard does. And the more the better
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@TheMojoman Watch his distribution skills under pressure. If you've got it, you've got it. He's got that rare commodity of calmness under pressure.
One dodgy pass that ironically led to the T Goose. -
@TheMojoman and yet Christie looked poor going forward against both the Argies and SA after they were well up on the scoreboard.
Christie has real issues with his accuracy going forward, along with his dithering decision making...on d, he is probably the best 9 in NZ, makes some awesome tackles and scrambling cover tackles as well as pressuring the breakdown.
But agree, they've invested in him, he won't be turfed now.
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@TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Cam is the 3rd option. Let him develop as such. Unless he can be outstanding and give us something we don’t have now I’d stick with Smith/Christie.
He doesn't need to be outstanding.
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@TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Cam is the 3rd option. Let him develop as such. Unless he can be outstanding and give us something we don’t have now I’d stick with Smith/Christie.
Roigard offered something different to Christie last night. His speed and accuracy of pass was a huge reason the ABs didnt have their typical late game fade.
20mins against a fading Wallaby side down to 14 for most of that time probably isn’t a great benchmark. I think we should get away from the whole “shiny new object” whenever someone has a good cameo.
They’ve invested time into Christie. He’s performed well and now has the experience. I’d feel more comfortable with Christie coming on in a big game behind Smith rather than a raw Roigard.
This isn't shiny new toy stuff. I've watched Roigard and Christie both play twice live this year and the difference between the two is stark. The mechanics of Roigard's game are superior to Christie. He's a far more accurate passer, he's a far better kicker, he's a better sniper and he makes far fewer errors.
I have no doubt you are correct and Christie is penciled in as the bench 9 for the big games but I don't agree with it.
