All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2
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One of the themes of Fozzie's selection is he avoids making tough decisions.
With the first fives he gives everyone a go.
The only reason Jordie is at 12 is multiple injuries last year and even then he rotated 12s on the end of year tour despite Jordie being a revalation at 12 in Bledisloe 2 last year.
With his 3 locks injury has meant he hasn't had to make a tough call there yet this year but in the past has put Barrett at 6 to squeeze them all on the field.
I don't believe he has ever started Jordan at fullback but he'll pick him on the wing etc.
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Why not give Roigard a run? His style is way more suited to the Boks than Christie. We know what Christie can do (not very much) so why not give guys a crack. Soooo frustrating.
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Foster is such a pussy for dropping Dmac to keep Beaudy
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No cover at 10 aside from BB switching there could really hurt us in this game, I'm just not a fan of the RB/BB combination as they seem to feed off each others mistakes and the attack degenerates into a headless chicken shambles.
I hope they prove me wrong on the weekend.
Clarke is on the bench seems so Jordan can go to 15 and BB to 10, so I guess they're going for their "best" impact winger there.
Sam T really should be starting, especially against the physical Boks. The Bok's simply swap big man for big man so you gain little from having a "big man impact" player on the bench who will likely play less minutes than Codie. It's a waste.
On the bright side I'm happy with the locking combination and that our midfield combination has stayed (though fear with RM running the cutter they will be nowhere as effective).
Also glad to see the loose forward combination stay - if for nothing to see if the excellent performance against the Argies was a fluke or the sign of a loose forward combination finally gelling.
We took a step forward against the Ariges - this game it will be very easy to take 2 steps backwards...
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Clarke on the bench must mean Jordan to fb at some point , that must be his plan , Richie or bb off
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@Frank said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Let's give Frizell his upteenth chance to prove he can't hack it against physical sides.
its this for me....great he had a good game against an undercooked argentina...but how many chances do guys get?
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@gt12 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
If Mo'unga shits the bed this week, where are we?
If he doesn't, where are we?
I don't get the selections with the WC really not that far away.
I don't get why they would start Dmac last week then drop him, despite being excellent.
Him on the bench this week, would likely give us far more danger.
I can't see much evidence of a plan, yet.
I think the plan is that Mo'unga is their preferred 10 and was always getting the start in this test.
What will be interesting is whether they have it pre-planned that Beaudy shifts to 10 for the last 15-20 minutes. If he does, that might indicate that on current form they're not completely convinced he can cover 10 in the event of an injury. If he doesn't, that might be an indicator they don't think they'll need DMac on the bench later in the year and are happy with Beaudy as cover.
Pretty close to the team I was expecting (assuming Big Sam didn't play) - especially once Nogusta gave his intel on Telea. Pretty much the team they think is their strongest available line-up - with Telea and Tamaiti little dice rolls in positions that aren't locked down. I thought DMac would be on the bench. I sort of hoped Roigard would be.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Clarke on the bench must mean Jordan to fb at some point , that must be his plan , Richie or bb off
Or Clarke just replaces MT or Jordan in a straight swap. We’ve seen that before.
I’m not a big fan of Clarke’s performances as an AB, but I do like the extra size on the bench for impact.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Clarke on the bench must mean Jordan to fb at some point , that must be his plan , Richie or bb off
so, RM or BB off...Jordan to 15, Telea to 14 and Clarke to 11? so much shuffling around
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I think we missed a golden opportunity to look at dmac as first receiver against against a very good defensive side like the boks .
Even if it’s off the bench with 20 to go
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@kiwiinmelb agree 100% - we haven't seen the fresh back from Japan Dmac at the international level at all, we've seen more than enough of the RB/BB combination.
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Conservative team as expected from Foster apart from picking Williams. Glad they selected him, and also happy that they are being careful with Whitelock. Don't want him to aggravate his injury. Vaai is a selection I guess I will never understand, he's so meh.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
One of the themes of Fozzie's selection is he avoids making tough decisions.
With the first fives he gives everyone a go.
The only reason Jordie is at 12 is multiple injuries last year and even then he rotated 12s on the end of year tour despite Jordie being a revalation at 12 in Bledisloe 2 last year.
With his 3 locks injury has meant he hasn't had to make a tough call there yet this year but in the past has put Barrett at 6 to squeeze them all on the field.
I don't believe he has ever started Jordan at fullback but he'll pick him on the wing etc.
I think I'd characterize that quite differently - I think he's actually a very consistent selector. He gives people runs of games and I think has a very clear idea of what his top team is - it just doesn't always accord with what the Fern thinks and wants. He probably errs in sometimes showing too much loyalty/consistency.
On first fives, Beaudy started the first half of last season (carrying on from 2021 when he'd got his nose in front in the latter part of the season - and recalling babies and injuries at the end) and only after the run of losses did Richie take over.
Havili got a long run at 12 and Jordie was clearly established as our first choice 15. I'd guess Fozzie didn't want to disrupt his backfield combination (Clarke, Jordan, Jordie) to try to solve his midfield problem.
He clearly wants Jordan at 14, so he's been very consistent there.
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Fucking lol at all the Foster-whining here at the non-selection of DMac at 10 and the selection of Friz at 6 and BB at 15.
Those of you claiming DMac had a "blinder" last week need to go and watch it again. Against a better side his first 15 minutes could have lost us a game. As is was a pathetic Argies forward performance and a masterclass at 9 from ASmith, gave him an armchair ride to try to make amends.
RM was ALWAYS going to start this game. I would have had DMac on the bench myself, but I'm not entirely surprised to not see it. I expect him to feature heavily in the rest of the RC though, especially against Oz
Re Friz, I'm not his biggest fan either, but with SW out and SB into lock, we were never going to start anyone else there.
BB was very good last week, as I said a few days ago, I reckon he did enough to cement his spot - if we were 18 months out from a RWC, maybe that wouldn't be the case. It would be good to see WJ spend some time at 15 in this game though.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@voodoo That's the thing though - he didn't have a blinder. And it was still the best our backline has functioned in a couple of years.
soooo, maybe it was more to do with our forwards and Smith then? Plus the midfield getting more and more chops?
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@voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@reprobate said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@voodoo That's the thing though - he didn't have a blinder. And it was still the best our backline has functioned in a couple of years.
soooo, maybe it was more to do with our forwards and Smith then? Plus the midfield getting more and more chops?
Or maybe it's a first five who plays flat at the line and combines well with his backline (inside and out).
