Argentina v All Blacks
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@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Dan54 So you like Beauden at 15? He's five years past his best and has been playing 10 all season (poorly). He's undropable it seems despite being below par for nearly the entirety of Foster's reign.
Not up to me to decide who I like at 15 mate. I not privy to training etc, I don't think he been great this year at 10, but it all depends if you pick what super coaches etc pick. I do think once Jordan was out it was him or DMac there, and can understand DMac being tried at 10. I think RMo is probably the preferred 10, but by christ we don't want to assume anyone in any position will be fit for whole year. I somehow think that CC is on trial on left wing too somehow, but once again I guessing as much as anyone.
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@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Haha no accounting for taste is there,
I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.Yep and you know what mate, it's probably as good as anyone's on here, and doesn't make an iota of difference because we never have to be proved right or wrong.
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@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Haha no accounting for taste is there,
I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.Yep and you know what mate, it's probably as good as anyone's on here, and doesn't make an iota of difference because we never have to be proved right or wrong.
That is a matter of opinion if you think that selection v Argentina is a good one then I think you have no idea at all.Just whatever Foster does or selects is all unicorns and Rainbows as far you are concerned.
Selections that continually fail is not good selecting and once again Foster will stuff up this year like the last 3 years.
Thank Fuck he is gone for next season.He repeats the same mistakes every year. -
@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Dan54 So you like Beauden at 15? He's five years past his best and has been playing 10 all season (poorly). He's undropable it seems despite being below par for nearly the entirety of Foster's reign.
Not up to me to decide who I like at 15 mate.....
no need to undermine 95% of the forum existing
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@Frank said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Why has Roigard not been selected?
He's rested and superior to Christie.Agree. But read a few days back that he might be brought on as a replacement vs SA
Coles said that Roigard was like a deer in the headlights in the AB environment so maybe he lacks a little bit of confidence still. Someone with lots of ability but ...
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Of the bizarre selections, Lord is actually one I can get behind - he's at least as underrated as Vaai is overrated. Gee what an impact off the bench that will be, Frizzel will be stoked to have another pair of eyes on the breakdown.
Foster loves to start a shit hooker eh, fuck the result, as long as we can play someone into form in time for the RWC final we won't be appearing in.
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@gt12 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
I’m a bit pissed to not see Finau there, I assume he’ll get a go against Oz or even SA.
I don’t think Stevenson gets capped. Roigard maybe.
Can only think Foster, Ryan and co want to both have a closer look at some of the new players and give them time to settle in - esp. as their 1st taste of AB rugby is outside of NZ. Narawa is an outlier though. From what Foster said, they def. rate SS but have a few concerns about defence which they want to work with him on and the door is very much open.
My guess is we'll probably see Roigard and Finau in the 23 in Melbourne and poss. SS too.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina v All Blacks:
From what Foster said, they def. rate SS but have a few concerns about defence
Are we still trying to believe what Foster says? Just like last year he was selecting the hookers on form eh...but then changed his tune and you even bought that!
He just makes shit up to tell the media/public.
Selecting Jordan and Clarke but not selecting Stevenson because of defence is about as believable as that time I rode a horse to the sun.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:
.but what tried and tested combos has he gone with?
Ardie/Cane/Frizzel, De Groot/Coles/Lomax, BB/CC/RI.
If Telea or Jordan were fully fit and he'd picked Mo'unga at 10 instead of the form SR 10 it would be a pretty experienced & settled team. The exception is Lord at 5 and the lack of cover for 12 on the bench - so he's rolled the dice there a bit.
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@Bones said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina v All Blacks:
From what Foster said, they def. rate SS but have a few concerns about defence
Are we still trying to believe what Foster says? Just like last year he was selecting the hookers on form eh...but then changed his tune and you even bought that!
He just makes shit up to tell the media/public.
Selecting Jordan and Clarke but not selecting Stevenson because of defence is about as believable as that time I rode a horse to the sun.
Meanwhile Beauden's most recent defensive play for the ABs was getting himself binned at Twickenham which was a huge contributing factor in the ABs throwing away a win.
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@antipodean said in Argentina v All Blacks:
I'm certain their misgivings are about his defence.
He was def. considered for this Test and has impressed:
“He featured in discussion and we decided to go somewhere else,” Foster told reporters in Mendoza. “I’ve been impressed with Shaun since he’s come in. Sometimes it’s good for people to come in and get a feel for the space and to learn.
“I think he’s doing everything we’re asking from him and that’s all we can really ask of all our squad members; to really enjoy being here and train hard and he’s done that and he’s done everything we’ve asked of him so did he feature in the conversation? Yes, he did.”
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:
.but what tried and tested combos has he gone with?
Ardie/Cane/Frizzel, De Groot/Coles/Lomax, BB/CC/RI.
If Telea or Jordan were fully fit and he'd picked Mo'unga at 10 instead of the form SR 10 it would be a pretty experienced & settled team. The exception is Lord at 5 and the lack of cover for 12 on the bench - so he's rolled the dice there a bit.
by tried and tested i did assume we were talking about combos that passed the test....haven't we been talking for months about BB, CC and Frizell at least not firing for the AB's...so two of those combos have weak links
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Playing devil's advocate, what's gonna happen if after another couple of games some of the retained stalwarts are still outta form
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Argentina v All Blacks:
but the game is on at 4:00 in the morning here so alcohol is not an option.
Fuck me, have you never heard of an All-Nighter?
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@BerniesCorner nothing....nothing will happen...the die is cast
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@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:
.but what tried and tested combos has he gone with?
Ardie/Cane/Frizzel, De Groot/Coles/Lomax, BB/CC/RI.
If Telea or Jordan were fully fit and he'd picked Mo'unga at 10 instead of the form SR 10 it would be a pretty experienced & settled team. The exception is Lord at 5 and the lack of cover for 12 on the bench - so he's rolled the dice there a bit.
by tried and tested i did assume we were talking about combos that passed the test....haven't we been talking for months about BB, CC and Frizell at least not firing for the AB's...so two of those combos have weak links
Hey still tested, just because they failed the test!
No one, in the history of test rugby looked at EdG, DC and TL and thought....now there's a front row that's seen everything together.
