All Blacks XV 2023
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:
@Duluth That will depend on what Foster and co see as the purpose of this team. If it is to provide a backup pool of players for the ABs then the same rules will apply as for the departing ABs. If it is to reward the next tier of players, then I agree.
IMO you want players committed to NZ Rugby 100% to win a World Cup, and that includes the backup players.Sport is such a mental game, having players that have checked out for the cash could be the difference in winning or losing.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks XV:
@Bones I meant the players commitment. Holding back to prevent injury so as not to lose a contract, for example.
Oh right...kinda like getting "injured" in super rugby for the business end so you can make a return via Ta$man...
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Japan XV v All Blacks XV
Prince Chichibu Memorial Stadium, Tokyo
Saturday, 8 July, 2023 Referee: Mike Adamson (SRU)
Assistant Referee 1: Tual Trainini (FFR)
Assistant Referee 2: Katsuki Furuse (JRFU)
TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)Japan v All Blacks XV
EGAO Kenko Stadium, Kumamoto
Saturday, 15 July, 2023 Referee: Tual Trainini (FFR)
Assistant Referee 1: Mike Adamson (SRU)
Assistant Referee 2: Katsuki Furuse (JRFU)
TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU) -
how about ainsley for the front row, he's had a huge season
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@Bovidae I think there is a balance. For example, say Frizell and Akira Ioane don't make the All Blacks, as they are established backup options, you'd keep them in the loop. Someone like MMT who has never debuted though, you are better off picking say Sean Withy.
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an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.
oh for the days of the AB trial
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@mariner4life almost everyone loves an upset, even at club level, last year in scrum training our 2's scrum demolished the 1's, was a huge wake up call for the 1's, a couple of people got a call up and other stepped up their game
sometimes losses dont spark people into life...they still have their job...someone who can actually take their job shows them up one on one....that can do wonders
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too many years ago, the Qld State cup was Country rep sides playing against Brisbane Premier Grade side, to mostly predictable results.
We were actually leading one game at halftime, and the word is their Coach told them if they lost none of them would play prems again that year. Fuck we got pumped in the 2nd half. A large polynesian who went on to play many games for the Brumbies at #8 palmed me so hard i still have dents in my chest.
Threats to spots is still the greatest motivator
we won the fight though (not me obviously)
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@mariner4life exactly why the old adage about being harder to get out of the AB's than into it is so frustrating
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:
an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.
oh for the days of the AB trial
Well they would compete, but hardly a bath, Jacobson, Cane and Savea would be better!
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:
an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.
Well they would compete, but hardly a bath, Jacobson, Cane and Savea would be better!
Hang on, is Jacobson the starting 6? In contention, but starting 6?
As for who would win, don't know, but would love to see it! -
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:
an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.
Well they would compete, but hardly a bath, Jacobson, Cane and Savea would be better!
Hang on, is Jacobson the starting 6? In contention, but starting 6?
As for who would win, don't know, but would love to see it!I think Jacobson is quite capable of starting at 6, and just saying I think that 3 would be at least as good as the opposing 3 named. I ctaually am a real fan of the idea of Finau at 6 in ABs though, but that wasn't what post was about.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:
> I think Jacobson is quite capable of starting at 6, and just saying I think that 3 would be at least as good as the opposing 3 named. I ctaually am a real fan of the idea of Finau at 6 in ABs though, but that wasn't what post was about.Oh I see I thought by starting 6 that meant who is seen as the incumbent-my bad.
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The 30-strong All Blacks XV squad is as follows (age, Super Rugby club, province):
Forwards:
Props
Jermaine Ainsley (28, Highlanders, Otago)
Oli Jager (27, Crusaders, Canterbury)
Tevita Mafileo (25, Hurricanes, Bay of Plenty)
Xavier Numia (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Aidan Ross (27, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)Hookers
Asafo Aumua (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Ricky Riccitelli (28, Blues, Taranaki)
Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)Locks
Naitoa Ah Kuoi (23, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)
Quinten Strange (26, Crusaders, Ta$man)
Isaia Walker-Leawere (26, Hurricanes, Hawke’s Bay)Loose Forwards
Billy Harmon (28, Highlanders, Canterbury)
Akira Ioane (28, Blues, Auckland)
Du’Plessis Kirifi (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Christian Lio-Willie (24, Crusaders, Otago)
Pita Gus Sowakula (28, Chiefs, Taranaki)
Cameron Suafoa (27, Blues, North Harbour)Backs:
Halfbacks
Folau Fakatava (23, Highlanders, Hawke’s Bay)
Brad Weber (32, Chiefs, Hawke’s Bay)First-five-eighths
Brett Cameron (26, Hurricanes, Manawatū)
Stephen Perofeta (26, Blues, Taranaki)Midfielders
Jack Goodhue (27, Crusaders, Northland)
Alex Nankivell (26, Chiefs, Ta$man)
Billy Proctor (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Bailyn Sullivan (24, Hurricanes, Waikato)Outside Backs
Sam Gilbert (24, Highlanders, Otago)
AJ Lam (24, Blues, Auckland)
Ruben Love (22, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Etene Nanai-Seturo (23, Chiefs, Counties Manukau)
Jona Nareki (25, Highlanders, Otago)The All Blacks XV assemble on 29 June, travelling to Tokyo where they compete for the 2023 Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup kicking off Saturday 8 July, at Tokyo’s historic Chichibunomiya Rugby Stadium in Tokyo before a second match on Saturday, July 15 at Egao Kenko Stadium in Kumamoto.
All Blacks XV squad named for Japan tour
The 30-strong All Blacks XV squad was selected by the All Blacks coaching team of Ian Foster, Joe Schmidt and Jason Ryan for the 2023 Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup against Japan XV and Brave Blossoms.
