Hurricanes 2024
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A good interview with Harry Godfrey via SENZ, he highlights First Five as the position he would love to play going forward but knows he has a fair amount to work on before he gets a good crack there for the Canes.
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Harry Godfrey was first five at Whanganui Collegiate and for Central HB prems when he played for them in the 2021 HB club comp. It was the 2021 Hurricanes U20 team where he was placed at fullback and seems to have been his position since. The Hurricanes U20 first five at the 2021 Taupo tournament was Aidan Morgan, also captain.
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@Number-10 he played first five for the Under 20s in 2022 and was the player of the tournament. The Canes see him as a future 10 but obviously don’t want to rush him.
A few highlights of him playing there below outside Jordi Vijoen.
Hawkes Bay need to start playing him at 10 in the NPC to be honest.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
The Canes see him as a future 10 but obviously don’t want to rush him.
Shield Snorters need to start playing him at 10 in the NPC to be honest.
Why should we rush him if the Canes don't want to rush him?
They fucked up by betting big on Morgan, that's not our problem to fix.
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@Canes4life ok I can understand the hype, delicious balance and vision. The pace of those changes of direction.
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@Nepia because it will be his third NPC and that competition is where you develop players these days. Where else is he meant to hone his craft?
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Nepia because it will be his third NPC and that competition is where you develop players these days. Where else is he meant to hone his craft?
Again, like the Canes betting on Morgan, that's not our problem to fix.
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@Nepia Godfrey plays for Hawke's Bay, it's your responsibility to help develop him instead of focusing on a first five that no one is interested in.
I don't know why Godfrey's development has anything to do with Morgan's history, the Canes now have a completely new coach.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Nepia Godfrey plays for Hawke's Bay, it's your responsibility to help develop him instead of focusing on a first five that no one is interested in.
I don't know why Godfrey's development has anything to do with Morgan's history, the Canes now have a completely new coach.
We are developing him - to suit what's best for us. We have no responsibility to develop players for a franchise that pays us lip service at best. Winning the shield, going deep in the NPC, was what we needed to prioritise, and we did that utilising the best mix of players to suit us.
The Canes are an ongoing entity, old coach isn't mitigation of anything. If you want Godfrey to be your 10 then your coach can play him there.
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@Nepia Godfrey has clearly stated he wants to be a 10 so if Hawke's Bay don't play him there he's welcome to join the good guys in Welly. I can't see why you wouldn't either he's one of the best talents you have.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Nepia Godfrey has clearly stated he wants to be a 10 so if Hawke's Bay don't play him there he's welcome to join the good guys in Welly. I can't see why you wouldn't either he's one of the best talents you have.
If he wants to do that then he can - can Wellington afford to pay any new players with their ongoing financial problems?
He's not the full package yet so that was why we didn't play him at 10, if he was the full package the Canes would just play him there then wouldn't they?
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@Nepia lol how's he meant to be the full package at Super if you don't give him mins in his favoured position at a lower level like the NPC?
NPC is pretty much a development comp these days so it's up to HB to manage him and give him time to develop in a position without having the spot light on him that Super Rugby brings. Despite me wanting to see Godfrey get mins off the bench at 10 for the Canes, he's not yet ready to run a team at that level, he's too inexperienced. He needs to learn and grow his game at NPC which goes right back to my original point about giving him an opportunity.
Just look at how Kemara and Hotham haven't been up to it for the Crusaders this year, they also need to go and hone their craft at the NPC to get more experience.
At the end of the day Godfrey needs more time at 10 for the Hawkes Bay, period.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Nepia lol how's he meant to be the full package at Super if you don't give him mins in his favoured position at a lower level like the NPC?
NPC is pretty much a development comp these days so it's up to HB to manage him and give him time to develop in a position without having the spot light on him that Super Rugby brings. Despite me wanting to see Godfrey get mins off the bench at 10 for the Canes, he's not yet ready to run a team at that level, he's too inexperienced. He needs to learn and grow his game at NPC which goes right back to my original point about giving him an opportunity.
Just look at how Kemara and Hotham haven't been up to it for the Crusaders this year, they also need to go and hone their craft at the NPC to get more experience.
At the end of the day Godfrey needs more time at 10 for the Hawkes Bay, period.
Best you do a whip around of your Welly mates so that your financially incompetent province-franchise can afford to poach him off us.
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@Nepia this is the sort of response someone gives when they've clearly lost an argument.
Who knows Godfrey might not stay at the Hawke's Bay given their rotten reputation of late, better yet he may come to Wellington voluntarily being a Petone boy. Wouldn't blame him either, Welly's a better city, we've got better coffee and we play more attractive rugby. The list goes on.
It's also funny that despite your distaste for the Hurricanes, you always end up commenting on this thread. Deep down I reckon you're still a fan.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Nepia this is the sort of response someone gives when they've clearly lost an argument.
Who knows Godfrey might not stay at the Hawke's Bay given their rotten reputation of late, better yet he may come to Wellington voluntarily being a Petone boy. Wouldn't blame him either, Welly's a better city, we've got better coffee and we play more attractive rugby. The list goes on.
It's also funny that despite your distaste for the Hurricanes, you always end up commenting on this thread. Deep down I reckon you're still a fan.
There's no lost argument, we have no obligation to develop players for the Canes as much as you want to create one.
I comment on Crusaders/Oz/England threads as well and dislike them as much as your franchise.
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@Nepia technically you don’t but not starting your best 10 would be down right stupid with the cattle you have. Godfrey is already better than who you have at the Magpies so you may aswell start him and develop him at least for the betterment of NZ Rugby, or do you hate them aswell?
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Nepia you don’t but not starting your best 10 would be down right stupid. Godfrey is already better than who you have at the Magpies.
No he's not, our best 10 guided us to a Shield win and a whisker from winning the NPC. Your favouritism of Godfrey doesn't change that fact even if his ceiling is higher and he may be our best sometime in the future.
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@Nepia he’s already better, he’s got a Super contract not an MLR contract.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Nepia that’s the whole point. Give him a shot and he’ll be better.
The Canes can give him a shot and see if he's better if they want.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Nepia he’s already better, he’s got a Super contract not an MLR contract.
Morgan's got one and even you've finally admitted he's shit after fluffing him in his early days.
