All Blacks 2023
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that
Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year
Which is exactly what Foster said.
Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.Oh we see Caleb. We do.
Also saw Jordan hanging back after kicks too.
For all we know Foster is as mad at the players as people get at him.Never mentioned Jordan that I heard Crucial, he was talking about Caleb and Lecicester early in season if I remember rightly. I find these things quite interesting anyway, things they look for etc. Hey but thats just probably me lol
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that
Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year
Which is exactly what Foster said.
Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.Oh we see Caleb. We do.
Also saw Jordan hanging back after kicks too.
For all we know Foster is as mad at the players as people get at him.Never mentioned Jordan that I heard Crucial, he was talking about Caleb and Lecicester early in season if I remember rightly. I find these things quite interesting anyway, things they look for etc. Hey but thats just probably me lol
I hadn’t seen the interview. Was just guessing.
Caleb had some horrible moments with positioning on defence and it was considered the he was doing what he was told. (The winger cutting in style). Definitely interesting to hear that wasn’t the coaches. -
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that
Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year
Which is exactly what Foster said.
Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.Oh we see Caleb. We do.
Also saw Jordan hanging back after kicks too.
For all we know Foster is as mad at the players as people get at him.Never mentioned Jordan that I heard Crucial, he was talking about Caleb and Lecicester early in season if I remember rightly. I find these things quite interesting anyway, things they look for etc. Hey but thats just probably me lol
I hadn’t seen the interview. Was just guessing.
Caleb had some horrible moments with positioning on defence and it was considered the he was doing what he was told. (The winger cutting in style). Definitely interesting to hear that wasn’t the coaches.Was basically talking about early super from what I recall mate.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that
Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year
B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that
Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year
B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.
Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that
Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year
B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.
Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.
That has nothing do with my post lol.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that
Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year
B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.
Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.
That has nothing do with my post lol.
It very much does. Someone essentially "retiring" isn't the same as someone doing a career move.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that
Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year
B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.
Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.
That has nothing do with my post lol.
It very much does. Someone essentially "retiring" isn't the same as someone doing a career move.
No as I was only mentioning who else was leaving, not anything about who should be selected or anything like that.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that
Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year
B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.
Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.
That has nothing do with my post lol.
It very much does. Someone essentially "retiring" isn't the same as someone doing a career move.
No as I was only mentioning who else was leaving, not anything about who should be selected or anything like that.
In response to a post talking about that very subject.
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Caleb Clarke is the most frustrating AB for me. Has bags of talent, hungry for work, good under the high ball and doesn't seem to lack ticker. But he often seems to slip over when clear, slows down when he should just power thru - generally seems a bit untidy when he has the ball and doesn't know quite what to do.
Genuinely don't know if it's just him as a player or if Test level fazes him. There's huge potential and I really want him to succeed, but there's a missing piece of the jigsaw right now
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
Caleb Clarke is the most frustrating AB for me. Has bags of talent, hungry for work, good under the high ball and doesn't seem to lack ticker. But he often seems to slip over when clear, slows down when he should just power thru - generally seems a bit untidy when he has the ball and doesn't know quite what to do.
Genuinely don't know if it's just him or he has a mental issues at Test level. There's huge potential and I really want him to succeed, but there's a missing piece of the jigsaw right now
Have you watched him at all this season? Evidence so far seems to point to that very much being yesterday's problem.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that
Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year
B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.
Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.
That has nothing do with my post lol.
It very much does. Someone essentially "retiring" isn't the same as someone doing a career move.
No as I was only mentioning who else was leaving, not anything about who should be selected or anything like that.
In response to a post talking about that very subject.
Not replying in the context you are bringing up.
Just a random reply about who else is leaving. -
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
Caleb Clarke is the most frustrating AB for me. Has bags of talent, hungry for work, good under the high ball and doesn't seem to lack ticker. But he often seems to slip over when clear, slows down when he should just power thru - generally seems a bit untidy when he has the ball and doesn't know quite what to do.
Genuinely don't know if it's just him or he has a mental issues at Test level. There's huge potential and I really want him to succeed, but there's a missing piece of the jigsaw right now
Have you watched him at all this season? Evidence so far seems to point to that very much being yesterday's problem.
Only seen one Blues game I think, and yeah, been less of the yips. Just want to see that carried thru at Test level. I'm a big supporter of the bloke.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
Caleb Clarke is the most frustrating AB for me. Has bags of talent, hungry for work, good under the high ball and doesn't seem to lack ticker. But he often seems to slip over when clear, slows down when he should just power thru - generally seems a bit untidy when he has the ball and doesn't know quite what to do.
Genuinely don't know if it's just him or he has a mental issues at Test level. There's huge potential and I really want him to succeed, but there's a missing piece of the jigsaw right now
Have you watched him at all this season? Evidence so far seems to point to that very much being yesterday's problem.
Only seen one Blues game I think, and yeah, been less of the yips. Just want to see that carried thru at Test level. I'm a big supporter of the bloke.
Pffft, pretender. Get back to me when you go for the broken record last year on the state of his play, he takes in all your criticisms in the off season and comes back and addresses them all the following season. That's support.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
he takes in all your criticisms in the off season and comes back and addresses them all the following season
The power of a GOM's opinion personified...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
he takes in all your criticisms in the off season and comes back and addresses them all the following season
The power of a GOM's opinion personified...
You're welcome.
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Early Nonu was very like Caleb Clarke. So many breaks that were then wasted by falling over or poor option taking.
It took him a long time to come right. Clarke should be grateful, as back then the AB selectors could drop people like him.
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2023:
Early Nonu was very like Caleb Clarke. So many breaks that were then wasted by falling over or poor option taking.
It took him a long time to come right. Clarke should be grateful, as back then the AB selectors could drop people like him.
Young Nonu was far more balanced than Clarke!! He tore up teams at Super level. But his decision making did take a long time to come good
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2023:
Early Nonu was very like Caleb Clarke. So many breaks that were then wasted by falling over or poor option taking.
It took him a long time to come right. Clarke should be grateful, as back then the AB selectors could drop people like him.
Young Nonu was far more balanced than Clarke!! He tore up teams at Super level. But his decision making did take a long time to come good
the way i remember it , his reads in defense were the number 1 concern when he was first on the scene
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@kiwiinmelb issues with his hands at times too IIRC...he turned out pretty good though aye!
