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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

    Interesting comment as Parsons said in the Rugby Pod show something along the lines of playing a pattern of moves then if they don’t come off, trying something. Implied it was a coaches thing at the Blues.

    Fuck you talk a load of shit

    He was describing what all NZ franchises do. A play is called at set piece that will last for 3-4 phases and then the team will transition into general play patterns. The play may also be called off before the phases are complete.

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    So Beauden Barrett is hoping to sign a deal to take him through to the next 4 year cycle WC in 2027.
    At which time he will be 36 dob 27/05/91, not sure if he will be AB quality in 4 years.

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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris exactly what i would do whilst i could still trade on a bit of reputation....you would hope razor gets a say in these kinds of decisions but probably not

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble
    Seems like a waste of money to me.

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    replied to Chris on last edited by Duluth
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

    So Beauden Barrett is hoping to sign a deal to take him through to the next 4 year cycle WC in 2027.
    At which time he will be 36 dob 27/05/91, not sure if he will be AB quality in 4 years.

    Even if he's not an AB by then (and 36 is not that old) would he still be valuable? I think his knowledge transfer to younger SR rugby players he would be a huge benefit he would also still have marketing value

    Perhaps the pay scale can slide down if he doesn't make AB squads etc

    It's great that a player wants to commit to NZR long term. I don't understand the negativity.

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    replied to Chris on last edited by
    #1102

    @Chris sorry, realise it wasn't clear....me too, if there is debate about him now i doubt he;ll have a second wind in 4 years time, year to year contracts at most

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @Duluth
    My thoughts are more looking at BB as a WC player in 2027, I think that is a risk paying him at that scale rate right through to 2027.

    If a sliding pay scale if not in the AB's is part of the deal then it is at least a more sensible signing, as his experience I agree is valuable.

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by Kiwiwomble
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    @Duluth personally i would rather that money was used to secure future talent, making it so young guys/girls can commit to training full time or stopping them going over seas would be more valuable IMO

    also, every minute of his professional career is on film younger SR players can still study him, i know not the same as first hand but surely he's been doing that already

    If we really think he has so much knowledge we cant let him go....pay for his coaching badges and try and get him on the pathway

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    #1105

    Bryce Heem/ Billy Procter

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

    Bryce Heem/ Billy Procter

    Well at least you're not wrong.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

    Bryce Heem/ Billy Procter

    yep...those are people

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble they r indeed kiwi

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    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #1109

    @Bones so true

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    #1110

    Any word on Newell's big toe? I'd expect him to be back in non contact training by now.

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

    It's great that a player wants to commit to NZR long term. I don't understand the negativity.

    One of the things NZR did well was the AB XV idea where younger and more experienced players got together and players and coaches learned a lot about each other. Players like BB could be invaluable in that environment

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    From last game, and rest of season, beaudy should be nowhere near black. But he'll be starting fullback cos foster

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by Bones
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    @Machpants thought it was probably his best game of the season. In saying that, it reminded me of Holwell.

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    Lol.can we stop saying "because Foster"

    Heavily tenured high profile players very very rarely get dropped from modern international teams in world cup years

    International teams are not rep teams.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    Lol.can we stop saying "because Foster"

    Heavily tenured high profile players very very rarely get dropped from modern international teams in world cup years

    International teams are not rep teams.

    Tell that to Ben Smith, he shouldn't have been dropped, Beaudy should.

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    Lol.can we stop saying "because Foster"

    Heavily tenured high profile players very very rarely get dropped from modern international teams in world cup years

    International teams are not rep teams.

    Tell that to Ben Smith, he shouldn't have been dropped, Beaudy should.

    And Cane. Dropping him for the semi in 2019 and then giving him the captaincy a year later was fucking batshit mental and stank of a coaching ticket at odds with itself. How can you drop a lad for the semi and then the assistant gives him the arm band the following year. Clown car on fire.

    Cane should have started that semi. He had a strong shoulder and would have stopped Vunipola et al making hay. Scooter could have came in for the second half if needs be.

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