England vs Springboks
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@nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks
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Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".
I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.
"We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.
Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."
Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.
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@OomPB said in England vs Springboks:
@nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks
Genslin
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Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".
I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.
"We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.
Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."
Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.
It’s great to hear such stories about the rugby genes being passed on through the generations.
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@OomPB said in England vs Springboks:
@nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks
Genslin
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Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".
I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.
"We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.
Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."
Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.
“ McLean, whose 1963 tour account "Willie Away" -- named for the line-out peel-off move borrowed from the French and perfected by Whineray -- may represent the peak of his own unique contribution to New Zealand rugby culture as he wrote: "I would unhesitatingly name him as New Zealand's greatest captain."
He also earned his place in the roll of great rugby one-liners, stunning rugged Bok prop Piet du Toit, notorious for testing the outer limits of scrummaging legality, by asking: "Do you have to spoil every match you play in?"
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@Catogrande said in England vs Springboks:
@OomPB said in England vs Springboks:
@nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks
Genslin
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Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".
I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.
"We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.
Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."
Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.
It’s great to hear such stories about the rugby genes being passed on through the generations.
Indeed.
It's serves as a reminder that it's not our fault that we didn't have the physical gifts to represent our respective countries.
It's the fault of our useless fucking grandparents, we never stood a chance!
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@Catogrande the 1981 Boks to NZ have great rugby genes. Producing Boks like Schalk Burger, FvdMerwe, Andries Bekker, Ruaan Pienaar and Claasen son playing for France.
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@pakman said in England vs Springboks:
@OomPB said in England vs Springboks:
@nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks
Genslin
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Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".
I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.
"We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.
Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."
Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.
“ McLean, whose 1963 tour account "Willie Away" -- named for the line-out peel-off move borrowed from the French and perfected by Whineray -- may represent the peak of his own unique contribution to New Zealand rugby culture as he wrote: "I would unhesitatingly name him as New Zealand's greatest captain."
He also earned his place in the roll of great rugby one-liners, stunning rugged Bok prop Piet du Toit, notorious for testing the outer limits of scrummaging legality, by asking: "Do you have to spoil every match you play in?"
Spiere Afrikaans for “Muscles”?
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@NTA said in England vs Springboks:
No, but I found Arendse's running line back toward Willemse interesting.
Go look at 15s into that clip and how Green 14 moves directly toward the receiver, then moves out of the line, right into the path of the defender.
Have seen more innocent attempts penalised.
I think it was a brilliant line because it was just barely enough to hinder the would-be tackler while not enough for most refs to penalise. Weak defence by that lesbian in the English 10 shirt, mind
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@Tordah said in England vs Springboks:
@NTA said in England vs Springboks:
No, but I found Arendse's running line back toward Willemse interesting.
Go look at 15s into that clip and how Green 14 moves directly toward the receiver, then moves out of the line, right into the path of the defender.
Have seen more innocent attempts penalised.
I think it was a brilliant line because it was just barely enough to hinder the would-be tackler while not enough for most refs to penalise. Weak defence by that lesbian in the English 10 shirt, mind
Agreed. A very clever line and I didn't notice that at all at the time. Steward really should have made something of that to bring it to the ref's notice, no point in waving your arms about afterwards.
A bit unfair on Smith's defence. He's not the first to be turned inside out by a full speed Allendse and I'll bet he won't be the last.
