Bledisloe 2
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 2:
@TheMojoman said in Bledisloe 2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@mariner4life Blown try - Rieko just had to run. He might even have been quick enough to score himself - but no-one was getting to him for 15 metres and the Australian defender was completely isolated and BB could have just run past him.
He did the right thing in passing..just a rubbish pass.
The pass also came a tad late - he took a step or two before passing he should have passed straight away.
Yep - that would have done it, as well.
But, Rieko was outside the cover defence when he caught the ball so if he'd gunned it I doubt they would have got to him and the wide defender would have been stranded.
Yeah, I thought he should have tried to be selfish.
He might have been worried about being tagged forever as a hungus by @Nepia
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 2:
@TheMojoman said in Bledisloe 2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@mariner4life Blown try - Rieko just had to run. He might even have been quick enough to score himself - but no-one was getting to him for 15 metres and the Australian defender was completely isolated and BB could have just run past him.
He did the right thing in passing..just a rubbish pass.
The pass also came a tad late - he took a step or two before passing he should have passed straight away.
Yep - that would have done it, as well.
But, Rieko was outside the cover defence when he caught the ball so if he'd gunned it I doubt they would have got to him and the wide defender would have been stranded.
Yeah, I thought he should have tried to be selfish.
Every man and his dog here would've complained that he didn't pass and is therefore not a centre.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe 2:
Really happy to see Ioane back at 6.
Important test for Akira - needs to put down a marker to be the starting 6 because time (test matches) is running short for RWC.
I'd say the same for Taylor, Papali'i, Ofa, Nepo, Hoskins and RTS.
Any who play poorly might not get many shots at redemption.
and...
Will Jordan searching for his mojo.
More missed equal opportunities on the Fern. That could have been a photo of a much younger and prettier female.
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@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bones ah, so been keeping his powder dry for the past 3 seasons
No-one's got tape on JB at 12. Genius.
He'll play him at 6 in the knockout match to reeeealy confuse the opponents.
Surely he's tall enough to be at 8, allowing ardie into 12
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe 2:
Refs have a larger influence on the outcome of the game than anyone else
only if you completely ignore the players
or you want to play victim.
sook away, why watch if it's not entertainment? go watch AFL, it's a fantastic game. I bet you will be whinging about holding the ball in 2 weeks, and how the swannies are getting stitched up in clear #vicbias
Every sport has its refereeing issues, even the most popular ones - Jesus @Derpus go and watch the EPL one weekend and see some of the teeth gnashing about refereeing there. It only seems more pronounced in union because there’s so many more rules and so many more opportunities therefore to blow the whistle.
I am not sticking up for union refs here - we seem to have an awful bunch at the moment - but it does amaze me just how shithouse refs can be in other codes when they have so little comparatively to rule on (and what they do have to rule on is much simpler and clear cut).
The TMO is the biggest for union, which is not such a massive factor in other sports yet - but it will be in due course I am sure
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@junior said in Bledisloe 2:
The TMO is the biggest for union, which is not such a massive factor in other sports yet - but it will be in due course I am sure
I am convinced the TMO only exists because TV cameras could see stuff the ref could never see, and people where whinging hard out when they lost. So we get TMO looking at everything
Has the whinging reduced? Like fuck it has.
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Late change to the Wallabies lineup. Foley has been ruled out because he missed the boat…
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@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial He's had a few games without scoring a scintillating try.
Aside from Boks 1, I think he's been fine under the high ball. Since Boks 1 it seems to me that there's been a distinct shift in Will's kick chase game. He's no longer mainly trying to catch offensive kicks, but is copying the Bok tactic and going up one handed to disrupt and knock down.
Yep Chris unfortunately at times (see 3rd Irish test) he scores scintillating try, but that has been all he has done . Game I mentioned I came away thinking he did nothing for about 79minute 40 second, and had an amazing 20 seconds, he is capable of so much more and has been slowly doing more in games as season gone on.
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@ACT-Crusader Foley needs to remember his hearing aid this time.
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waiting for Foley to kick the ball
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
Late change to the Wallabies lineout. Foley has been ruled out because he missed the boat…
Why the fuck is Foley in the lineout?
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@Dan54 said in Bledisloe 2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial He's had a few games without scoring a scintillating try.
Aside from Boks 1, I think he's been fine under the high ball. Since Boks 1 it seems to me that there's been a distinct shift in Will's kick chase game. He's no longer mainly trying to catch offensive kicks, but is copying the Bok tactic and going up one handed to disrupt and knock down.
Yep Chris unfortunately at times (see 3rd Irish test) he scores scintillating try, but that has been all he has done . Game I mentioned I came away thinking he did nothing for about 79minute 40 second, and had an amazing 20 seconds, he is capable of so much more and has been slowly doing more in games as season gone on.
On the other hand - I've re-watched this game and Will was even better and more impactful than I thought. Has a significant role in all the tries.
First try - it's Will and SBarrett who tackle Ikitau into touch to win the initial field position - he doesn't lose contact in the tackle as I earlier recalled. Then Havili and Will join the maul to help provide the impetus to get it over the line.
Second try begins with a pin point cross kick to Will who catches it on the sideline above his head. He kicks the ball down the tramlines - chases hard and nails Kellaway. Gets to his feet and with Sotutu and someone else counter-rucks to win the ball which is spun for Sami to score.
Third try, again it's Will who kicks the ball downfield. Chases - while Koroibete fumbles, recovers and then Will tackles him and we win a penalty when MK plays the ball on the ground. Moúnga's try results from the field position.
4th try he scores himself.
5th try he makes for Jordie.
He takes both high balls kicked to him - including one where he has his feet taken out when he's in the air (the tackler is ruled as being pushed). The other he gets tackled and pinged for holding on.
He wins a tackle penalty. He makes a good clearing kick from behind the goal line. He does quite a bit of other useful stuff.
He falls off the tackle of Samu. He misses what would effectively have been an ankle tap of Koroibete (who then bounces off Sotutu and fan favourite Sami T.). In the early 30 minutes he tackles Samu one off the ruck when he's surging for the line and fells him but doesn't hold him, so I guess that counts as a miss, but it's really an effective effort.
In about the 78th minute he disengages from a joint tackle to retain his feet just before the guy goes to ground - if they've marked that as a missed tackle it's ridiculous, but if they haven't, I don't know where either of the other two supposed misses occur - one might be Quinn Tupaea's.
Aside from the Samu miss (and the penalty if you're being picky - but, you could lay some of that with the cleaners) he's had an excellent and busy game. Yet some on the fern have assessed him as poor and a spectator and calling for Reece.
It's bollocks!!!
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@Machpants because Foley loves auto text on the iPhone
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@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@Dan54 said in Bledisloe 2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial He's had a few games without scoring a scintillating try.
Aside from Boks 1, I think he's been fine under the high ball. Since Boks 1 it seems to me that there's been a distinct shift in Will's kick chase game. He's no longer mainly trying to catch offensive kicks, but is copying the Bok tactic and going up one handed to disrupt and knock down.
Yep Chris unfortunately at times (see 3rd Irish test) he scores scintillating try, but that has been all he has done . Game I mentioned I came away thinking he did nothing for about 79minute 40 second, and had an amazing 20 seconds, he is capable of so much more and has been slowly doing more in games as season gone on.
On the other hand - I've re-watched this game and Will was even better and more impactful than I thought. Has a significant role in all the tries.
First try - it's Will and SBarrett who tackle Ikitau into touch to win the initial field position - he doesn't lose contact in the tackle as I earlier recalled. Then Havili and Will join the maul to help provide the impetus to get it over the line.
Second try begins with a pin point cross kick to Will who catches it on the sideline above his head. He kicks the ball down the tramlines - chases hard and nails Kellaway. Gets to his feet and with Sotutu and someone else counter-rucks to win the ball which is spun for Sami to score.
Third try, again it's Will who kicks the ball downfield. Chases - while Koroibete fumbles, recovers and then Will tackles him and we win a penalty when MK plays the ball on the ground. Moúnga's try results from the field position.
4th try he scores himself.
5th try he makes for Jordie.
He takes both high balls kicked to him - including one where he has his feet taken out when he's in the air (the tackler is ruled as being pushed). The other he gets tackled and pinged for holding on.
He wins a tackle penalty. He makes a good clearing kick from behind the goal line. He does quite a bit of other useful stuff.
He falls off the tackle of Samu. He misses what would effectively have been an ankle tap of Koroibete (who then bounces off Sotutu and fan favourite Sami T.). In the early 30 minutes he tackles Samu one off the ruck when he's surging for the line and fells him but doesn't hold him, so I guess that counts as a miss, but it's really an effective effort.
In about the 78th minute he disengages from a joint tackle to retain his feet just before the guy goes to ground - if they've marked that as a missed tackle it's ridiculous, but if they haven't, I don't know where either of the other two supposed misses occur - one might be Quinn Tupaea's.
Aside from the Samu miss (and the penalty if you're being picky - but, you could lay some of that with the cleaners) he's had an excellent and busy game. Yet some on the fern have assessed him as poor and a spectator and calling for Reece.
It's bollocks!!!
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Compare Jordans game to Clarkes, they are calling for the wrong wing to be dropped.
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@Chris said in Bledisloe 2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@Dan54 said in Bledisloe 2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial He's had a few games without scoring a scintillating try.
Aside from Boks 1, I think he's been fine under the high ball. Since Boks 1 it seems to me that there's been a distinct shift in Will's kick chase game. He's no longer mainly trying to catch offensive kicks, but is copying the Bok tactic and going up one handed to disrupt and knock down.
Yep Chris unfortunately at times (see 3rd Irish test) he scores scintillating try, but that has been all he has done . Game I mentioned I came away thinking he did nothing for about 79minute 40 second, and had an amazing 20 seconds, he is capable of so much more and has been slowly doing more in games as season gone on.
On the other hand - I've re-watched this game and Will was even better and more impactful than I thought. Has a significant role in all the tries.
First try - it's Will and SBarrett who tackle Ikitau into touch to win the initial field position - he doesn't lose contact in the tackle as I earlier recalled. Then Havili and Will join the maul to help provide the impetus to get it over the line.
Second try begins with a pin point cross kick to Will who catches it on the sideline above his head. He kicks the ball down the tramlines - chases hard and nails Kellaway. Gets to his feet and with Sotutu and someone else counter-rucks to win the ball which is spun for Sami to score.
Third try, again it's Will who kicks the ball downfield. Chases - while Koroibete fumbles, recovers and then Will tackles him and we win a penalty when MK plays the ball on the ground. Moúnga's try results from the field position.
4th try he scores himself.
5th try he makes for Jordie.
He takes both high balls kicked to him - including one where he has his feet taken out when he's in the air (the tackler is ruled as being pushed). The other he gets tackled and pinged for holding on.
He wins a tackle penalty. He makes a good clearing kick from behind the goal line. He does quite a bit of other useful stuff.
He falls off the tackle of Samu. He misses what would effectively have been an ankle tap of Koroibete (who then bounces off Sotutu and fan favourite Sami T.). In the early 30 minutes he tackles Samu one off the ruck when he's surging for the line and fells him but doesn't hold him, so I guess that counts as a miss, but it's really an effective effort.
In about the 78th minute he disengages from a joint tackle to retain his feet just before the guy goes to ground - if they've marked that as a missed tackle it's ridiculous, but if they haven't, I don't know where either of the other two supposed misses occur - one might be Quinn Tupaea's.
Aside from the Samu miss (and the penalty if you're being picky - but, you could lay some of that with the cleaners) he's had an excellent and busy game. Yet some on the fern have assessed him as poor and a spectator and calling for Reece.
It's bollocks!!!
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Compare Jordans game to Clarkes, they are calling for the wrong wing to be dropped.
Talk about uninterested on defence its all from the other wing.I think both have struggled a bit with the defensive system at times, but that probably goes for all of the backs this year. Maybe not Jordie.
But, Will had no problems with the system this week - he just fell off a tackle due to the might and power of the former Mako, Pete Samu.
Caleb had a few issues with the system and with linking on attack, so you're right about where the ruler should have been run.
Overall, though - I'm happy to persist with these two wings. Caleb offers the power option that we're otherwise a bit lacking in if Sevu plays.
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Fairly happy with our backs. Defense needs improving but they'll only get better as combinations improve. Clarke has work-ons more than most but he has shown a vast improvement since I harped on about him last year/earlier in the year. The tight-five are doing alright at last, or were before the baffling changes for this game. Maybe Ofa needs another chance though, he was going great guns before going into a rudderless AB camp at the start of the international season.
The big issue is still the loosies or their combination. Just listened to Mexted on a podcast and have to agree that this is the AB's biggest challenge.
