Bledisloe 1
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With all of the focus on the time wasting call no one is looking at the call and actions just before.
That maul was driven sideways from yellow players joining from the sideline side. Same players then drove into the side and split the maul. Then the back section which had the ball had no numbers and went to ground for a yellow player that was on his knees to flop over the ball carrier and make a grab.
If you also add in the call against yellow that gave us the penalty before the line out you could say that Reynal really lost the plot in the final stanza.
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 1:
@game_film said in Bledisloe 1:
Look at Foley’s team mate screaming at him to kick it. He knew
The commentators saying it's unprecedented but honestly what Foley was doing was taking the piss.
Time wasting is a penalty
Totally. Point one out in an other test
Why?
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@KiwiMurph given you know he was kicking it seven rows back with distance irrelevant, he cant really point to the forward who were still fucking around too as his reason.
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@MajorRage said in Bledisloe 1:
That doesn't feel like a win to me. Granted, we still had to score, but sheesh.
Really empty victory. Really empty.
Massive sympathy to the Aussies.
I can see your pov, but for some reason I'm really happy with the result.
Showed character to come back from the fuck ups.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
I'm sorry but why are they celebrating??? They had ample opportunity to put that game away with all the YCs, fucked endless opportunities to score, showed complete lack of aptitude in defense and got a unicorn at the end to win. I feel dirty and the ABs again, are complete shit.
Sorry. Thought we/they won?
The won jack shit. With all the advantage they had they needed a unicorn to win.
Sorry, you spelt "the game and Bledisloe Cup" wrong.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@barbarian said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@barbarian said in Bledisloe 1:
Nah I’m sorry but that’s fucked. First and only time I’ve ever seen that call, and it’s in the 79th minute of a Bledisloe. Just absolute horse shit.
Take the win NZ. But it’s hardly a famous victory.
What was the ref supposed to do? Just wait for the hooter for the next minute?
Player has to take responsibility.
Blow time off. That’s what he does, and it’s what every ref has done in that situation.
Or just let Foley kick the ball three seconds later and not make the game about him.
But he made a call I’ve literally never seen before. On the back of an incredibly dubious penalty for sealing off.
He blew time off, warned him, put time on and told him to play. Then he impersonated a statue.
Ref was correct.
Someone in the media here has looked at it:
He illustrates why the call was justified quite nicely, even though he trying to make the opposite point.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
That is the best evidence by far.
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@Frank said in Bledisloe 1:
Did my eyes deceive me or did Richie Mounga make a couple of good front on tackles last night?
He was the one who tracked back and made a tackle on Kellaway (?) who scored after CC shot out of the line. Fr a poor defender, so I've been told, he makes a lot of tackles.
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe 1:
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
That is the best evidence by far.
I like the way Whitelock and BBBR stopped some ABs getting involved in a confrontation with the Wallabies over the ref's decision. Don't want to give him an excuse to overturn his decision especially if self doubt had started to creep in.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@NTA said in Bledisloe 1:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 1:
@RoninWC said in Bledisloe 1:
Definitely forward pass in that off load
Almost Cardiff 07 level
Very quick conversion taken by Foley. Did not want that replayed on the big screen
I thought the rules had changed, and they could now pull it back even with a conversion taken
Yeah. This. Anyone confirm?
I think the actual "law" is that you can go back at any time until the next "restart of play".
So - I guess it depends on whether you consider a conversion kick to be a "restart of play", or... the actual kick-off.
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@voodoo it was a few of the high shots that showed our defence, and is concerning with the lack of width and shape we use.
Is quite concerning that we have kept the same defence coach since 2017? and defence has been consistently poor, with no apparent improvement or innovation
And out of all that , opposition coaches are watching that we struggle against that type of width and ball movement , so there is more coming
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
@antipodean you certainly don't seem like the kind of bloke who is ever happy, let's be honest eh.
Hello Pot. Meet Kettle.
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe 1:
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
That is the best evidence by far.
Yep. Would like to see all the wonkiest Oz mouthpiece commentators eat their hats while watching that. Foley's post match interviews are complete rubbish saying that the ref never told him to play or that time was on. Foley just fucked up really badly and it cost his team.
That clip is plain as day and I can understand how those at the ground said it was really obvious. -
@Kirwan I see Owen's has had his usual post game review...if he wants to be involved he should really get on the referees panel or whatever to try and help the current crop of coaches instead of stirring the pot saying this and that was wrong and he'd have done this or that...
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 1:
@game_film said in Bledisloe 1:
Look at Foley’s team mate screaming at him to kick it. He knew
The commentators saying it's unprecedented but honestly what Foley was doing was taking the piss.
Time wasting is a penalty
Totally. Point one out in an other test
Plenty of times. Delaying a line out throw, slow getting to a line out, halfback dithering at the scrum.
The reason you don't see it often from a clearing penalty or drop out is that players are usually much smarter than to take that risk.
Wobblies relaxed thinking they had won. Wanted to start sinking the celebratory beers and forgot they had to play the game out.
Only themselves to blame.BTW I don't agree with Rennie's idea that the ref should just blow time off until the kick is taken. Why should the team dictate the game? Why do they get all the time in the world to strategise and sort themselves out for the next play. The game doesn't work like that.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
I'm sorry but why are they celebrating??? They had ample opportunity to put that game away with all the YCs, fucked endless opportunities to score, showed complete lack of aptitude in defense and got a unicorn at the end to win. I feel dirty and the ABs again, are complete shit.
Sorry. Thought we/they won?
The won jack shit. With all the advantage they had they needed a unicorn to win.
Sorry, you spelt "the game and Bledisloe Cup" wrong.
They retained the Bled.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 1:
On the ref's decision at the end - would anyone have been cheesed off if he didn't take the penalty off Aussie? Was it crossing anyone's mind at the time that the ref should take action?
Foley ignored the ref and took a quick kick and got his team an undeserved 7 points.
Have I missed something here? I assume you are talking about the Wallaby try from the alleged forward pass? Are you saying the ref told Foley to not take the conversion?
Correct he told him to hold, and Floely kicked it. Ref looked confused and just went, ah fuck it, too late now
