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    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Another post missing the point.
    Not doing it is the very stuff the coaches were annoyed about. Instinct to go wide when it isn’t on.

    On the suggestion though Clarke did try coming infield for a burst a couple of times IIRC. Jordan, however was conspicuously absent and JB stopped appearing where he was needed

    Foster seems to blame the players for their poor play at every point. "They don't do the awesome things I tell them to do" seems to be his perennial cry.

    Perhaps he's correct and the coaching should be judged on how well they respond to it. I recall exactly the same laments by Hansen and Sir Ted before him. The difference is the amount of experience in the squad so one might expect these problems to surface wilt slightly more regularity.

    What's abundantly clear to me is the learnings of previous iterations haven't flowed through to this squad. You draw from and add to the crucible and the level of experience determines the strength of the forging. It's unfortunate that the same lessons have be retaught.

    At the moment the compounding problem to addressing the manner in which we play is the mental fragility, the panic that fixates the vision. They're clearly tightening up and not seeing the very opportunities they're creating. Winning, like losing, becomes a habit.

    The well from which we draw isn't as deep either. That's plainly obvious when you look at the squad we took to the 2007 RWC. Any iteration of that squad would defeat the current All Blacks - something I doubt you could say about many other nations.

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    There were still tickets on Friday?

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    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    There were still tickets on Friday?

    There aer still the odd tickets available right now!

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    There were still tickets on Friday?

    There aer still the odd tickets available right now!

    What are prices like?

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    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Foster seems to blame the players for their poor play at every point. "They don't do the awesome things I tell them to do" seems to be his perennial cry.

    Taylor's lineout throwing in Pumas 1, which probably cost us the game, had nothing to do with Foster and was all down to Taylor and the forwards. I hope he gave them a good kick up the arse for that shit.

    It's only afterwards that he has to find someone to blame.

    Do you want him to join the commentary team and call out player errors in real-time?

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    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    There were still tickets on Friday?

    I wasn't expecting the game to sellout. I'm not going! $115 to sit in my usual seats, which aren't in the main grandstand. $180 for the most expensive tickets.

    Unfortunately after having no rain all week there is rain forecast during the test.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Foster seems to blame the players for their poor play at every point. "They don't do the awesome things I tell them to do" seems to be his perennial cry.

    Taylor's lineout throwing in Pumas 1, which probably cost us the game, had nothing to do with Foster and was all down to Taylor and the forwards. I hope he gave them a good kick up the arse for that shit.

    It's only afterwards that he has to find someone to blame.

    Do you want him to join the commentary team and call out player errors in real-time?

    There were quite a few errors and defensive issues that were also costly.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Foster seems to blame the players for their poor play at every point. "They don't do the awesome things I tell them to do" seems to be his perennial cry.

    Taylor's lineout throwing in Pumas 1, which probably cost us the game, had nothing to do with Foster and was all down to Taylor and the forwards. I hope he gave them a good kick up the arse for that shit.

    It's only afterwards that he has to find someone to blame.

    Do you want him to join the commentary team and call out player errors in real-time?

    Except for, you know, repeatedly selecting him while underperforming. And subbing someone playing superbly and throwing accurately for him.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Foster seems to blame the players for their poor play at every point. "They don't do the awesome things I tell them to do" seems to be his perennial cry.

    Taylor's lineout throwing in Pumas 1, which probably cost us the game, had nothing to do with Foster and was all down to Taylor and the forwards. I hope he gave them a good kick up the arse for that shit.

    It's only afterwards that he has to find someone to blame.

    Do you want him to join the commentary team and call out player errors in real-time?

    Except for, you know, repeatedly selecting him while underperforming. And subbing someone playing superbly and throwing accurately for him.

    Not sure what that's got to do with forwards not being able to execute the really basic stuff like line-out throws to win/save a game. Poor coaching at Super level probably.

    Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas II

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    There were still tickets on Friday?

    I wasn't expecting the game to sellout. I'm not going! $115 to sit in my usual seats, which aren't in the main grandstand. $180 for the most expensive tickets.

    Unfortunately after having no rain all week there is rain forecast during the test.

    Platinum tickets for Sydney tomorrow night $250

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    Paps to come on at 50 and go to 8: Ardie/Scooter/Paps.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

    Agree

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    Not a sell out suprised when ChCh sold out in that shit staduim.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

    Agree

    I think you mean Ireland III

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

    Agree

    I think you mean Ireland III

    I definitely do not. Feel free to check my posts after the first test πŸ˜‰

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

    Agree

    I think you mean Ireland III

    I definitely do not. Feel free to check my posts after the first test πŸ˜‰

    Ireland III was way worse IMHO.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

    Agree

    I think you mean Ireland III

    I definitely do not. Feel free to check my posts after the first test πŸ˜‰

    Ireland III was way worse IMHO.

    Now you're getting it...

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    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    There were still tickets on Friday?

    I wasn't expecting the game to sellout. I'm not going! $115 to sit in my usual seats, which aren't in the main grandstand. $180 for the most expensive tickets.

    Unfortunately after having no rain all week there is rain forecast during the test.

    Platinum tickets for Sydney tomorrow night $250

    Firstly, why are you surprised there's tickets available for the AB game? Have you not watched them this year?

    Secondly, $250 is chump change for the Eastern Suburbs and North Shore toffs who run your game. Plus they've all got lots of money to spend on rugby after not attending any match out West for the period that the SFS was closed down.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Ardie/Scooter/Paps.

    That's fucking awful - bring a 7 on at 8, move a slow footed lock to 6, and move the 8 to 7.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Ardie/Scooter/Paps.

    That's fucking awful - bring a 7 on at 8, move a slow footed lock to 6, and move the 8 to 7.

    Mex is adamant Paps is not a 7.

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