All Blacks v Pumas 1
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Mils was only 5 tests as a sub but didn't reach 100 starts
BB only 70 starts so far
O Franks didn't quite reach 100 starts 98/108
DC 106/112. He reached his 100th start in his 107 tests
Woodcock reached his 100th start in 112 tests
Read reached his 100th start in 107 tests
Mealamu didn't reach 100 startsJust need to look at GOAT and Whitelock
Whitelock took 118 to get 100 starts
GOAT took 106So in summary if my previous maths was correct the 100 start mark was reached in
106 McCaw
107 Carter
107 Read
107 A Smith
112 Woodcock
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@Daffy-Jaffy you can certainly see why the players like him, seems very personable, and given how under the pump he has been, must be a nice change for him...
I hope Ellis Park is the turning point for him and this group, confidence breeds confidence, and with it comes luck too.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
so we should deliberately play a worse team now in case we might have to play a worse team later?
Not all tests are created equal.
So you give some lesser guys a run in some of the lesser tests, in case you happen to need them in some bigger tests later - they're hopefully a bit more prepared.
This is not the week for that, though.
Next game might be - if we can win well this week.
When you are 2 out of your last 5, every test against a tier 1 side is equal….
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
106 McCaw
107 CarterThe disrespect of the ABs by not starting McCaw and Carter in a test match. Cheapened the jersey
@bayimports same starting lineup in consecutive tests = Fozzie has run out of ideas
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
so we should deliberately play a worse team now in case we might have to play a worse team later?
You think having Fakatava or Sotutu on the bench makes the team that much "worse"?
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
so we should deliberately play a worse team now in case we might have to play a worse team later?
You think having Fakatava or Sotutu on the bench makes the team that much "worse"?
the coaches do and that's all that matters
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@mariner4life ah so you trust the coaches now
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@mariner4life ah so you trust the coaches now
i am readjusting my attitude
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
so we should deliberately play a worse team now in case we might have to play a worse team later?
You think having Fakatava or Sotutu on the bench makes the team that much "worse"?
the coaches do and that's all that matters
Hah! Good to see the return of that old chestnut.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@bayimports same starting lineup in consecutive tests = Fozzie has run out of ideas
lol that could be a good thing, it could mean this is someone elses idea
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Why are they asking a guy from Feilding and another from Taranaki how excited they are to play at 'home'?
Well they both live in Christchurch with their families and have properties there.
But you know that of course.
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I think we're going to stuff the Argies.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
If he breaks, we bring the next guy in.
Just need to make sure the next guy has enough experience so there's minimal drop-off.
Rotation is highly over rated.
Not a word I've liked to hear since 2007
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Hopefully a good win, and then the opportunity to make changes for the next test.
can i ask why? is it just to see your favourite players get a run?
Nope. I'm thinking more on the bench (e.g., Sotutu, Fakatava) to see what they can do, as an alternative. Picking the same team every week is great until you have injuries and the replacement comes in cold.
Yep, with Weber and TJP no longer in the picture, we have one 33-year-old veteran halfback, one reasonably new 26-year-old and one rookie of 22. The rookie needs game time, in case one of the other two goes down with injury. I hate the thought of Smith getting injured and all we have is 8-cap Christie (who is okay, but not more than that) and Fakatava, who has a higher ceiling but has only had 37 minutes in the black jersey. I hope Fakatava gets game time in the second Puma test.
I guess the issue Foster & co have now is minimal game time before RWC2023 to give experience to new-ish players. Requires some tricky management.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Daffy-Jaffy you can certainly see why the players like him, seems very personable, and given how under the pump he has been, must be a nice change for him...
I hope Ellis Park is the turning point for him and this group, confidence breeds confidence, and with it comes luck too.
In many ways, this game is the acid test and we'll see if the corner has been turned or Ellis Park was a one-off.
