Springboks v All Blacks 2
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@KiwiMurph Was gonna make a point about the 2nd try we scored. We had forwards carrying for multiple phases in the lead up and then we reverted to our pet play around the back off the first pod which can be used if you do the hard work up front, which we did for once by creating space for it. For the last while, we've just used it as a default play no matter what the numbers were out wide, and as a result, we'd find ourselves behind the advantage line. But on this instance, we used it once we found a mismatch, which got us 5 meters out and a few phases later we scored through Taukeiaho.
A few simple minor adjustments like our forwards actually carrying can go a long way. Still a few more things to iron out but I think we're heading in the right direction whether that's with or without Foster.
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@Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Pearce - shit scrum call aside - MOTM
Best refereeing performance in ages
That so called “leg lift” against Whitelock was an unnecessary call too. Wasn’t even lifted and had zero effect. Could have been a turning point on the match.
The not straight call for Taylor’s first throw was also very pedantic and unnecessary. He had a good first half but his second half was more in line with his contemporaries
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@Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Keep Nonu on. Didn’t get the Sky memo to ask leading non questions. Asking real ones and pressing the answer.
God yes I was wanting Jeff to shut the fuck up with his waffly bullshit.
I like where Nonu was going with the last question - pushing for some consistency in selections.
Nonu also sounds like he'd make a decent fist of coaching with his game questions too.
People go on about Conrad being the "brains" but Nonu was easily as smart a player. He really was the complete package at 12, comfortably the GOAT 12.
Didn’t Ted tell a story about how he was about rip Nonu one about a misfiring backline and he looked like he was sulking then he turned around and gave a full on analysis back about why the plan was wrong and the small adjustments needed.
Wayne Smith.
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Full game with SA commentary. May not stay up for long.
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Fantastic win
Congratulations
But you won in spite of RM not because
If you think he’s the answer at 10 you’ve learned nothing
He did some very important things in terms of getting our backline going. Made some terrible errors too. But overall his intent in attack is what we needed tonight.
Yeah laughable to suggest what Mike said.
@Canes4life said it best when discussing JGB. I'd rather have rocks and diamonds than just rocks.
If Polllard had been playing for NZ it would have been a canter
What the fuck did Pollard do? Disappeared or passed it to Am? Yeah good one.
Kicked for territory
Got his backline moving
Didn't put his side under needless pressure
Didn't give up pointsAll behind a non-dominant forward pack
If he'd had the ride RM had, the margin of victory would have been greater
It worked really well. Meanwhile RM gave his forwards a sweet ride so that he could get a sweet ride.
Ha ha
Must have been watching a different game from me
I hope you keep him
Because he'll shit the bed when you least want him to
Yeah cos you'd be extremely worried if we got Barrett out there instead to steer us backwards down the pitch. I hope we keep him too, because he'll shit the bed when we least want him to... instead of all the fucking time.
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Fantastic win
Congratulations
But you won in spite of RM not because
If you think he’s the answer at 10 you’ve learned nothing
He did some very important things in terms of getting our backline going. Made some terrible errors too. But overall his intent in attack is what we needed tonight.
Yeah laughable to suggest what Mike said.
@Canes4life said it best when discussing JGB. I'd rather have rocks and diamonds than just rocks.
If Polllard had been playing for NZ it would have been a canter
What the fuck did Pollard do? Disappeared or passed it to Am? Yeah good one.
Kicked for territory
Got his backline moving
Didn't put his side under needless pressure
Didn't give up pointsAll behind a non-dominant forward pack
If he'd had the ride RM had, the margin of victory would have been greater
It worked really well. Meanwhile RM gave his forwards a sweet ride so that he could get a sweet ride.
Ha ha
Must have been watching a different game from me
I hope you keep him
Because he'll shit the bed when you least want him to
Yeah cos you'd be extremely worried if we got Barrett out there instead to steer us backwards down the pitch. I hope we keep him too, because he'll shit the bed when we least want him to... instead of all the fucking time.
Mike doesn't want Richie playing when Wales play ABs in November 🤣
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Thought that was a pretty good test. Almost MOTM for me was almost Jason Ryan, or whoever got the forwards winning front foot ball again.. Of players there were plenty of good uns, but I really thought Sam Whitelock had a huge game, along with Scott Barrett and Shannon Frizzel they gave some shoulder that the Boks felt. Savea continues to amaze me. Generally all backs went ok, but had good front foot ball and would hope they would. All in all pretty satisfying perfromance.
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Just watched the full replay without knowing the result ,
Great game , another Ellis park classic , ( there have been a few ) was good to just put all the bullshit going on atm to the side and just enjoy the rugby
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Yeah kudos to the players and coaches, a gazillion times better than our other win this year and I really didn't think they had it in them.
I'm left with this niggling thought though.... just where was that desire, drive and want the last half a dozen tests?
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Yeah kudos to the players and coaches, a gazillion times better than our other win this year and I really didn't think they had it in them.
I'm left with this niggling thought though.... just where was that desire, drive and want the last half a dozen tests?
Probably there but with a collective loss of confidence & too much pressure. Maybe Havili's kick in the first minute set the scene and gave them some confidence early on.
Only one game though and we've been here before. Pumas will be a stiff Test as they seem to tearing the Wobblies a new tonight.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Yeah kudos to the players and coaches, a gazillion times better than our other win this year and I really didn't think they had it in them.
I'm left with this niggling thought though.... just where was that desire, drive and want the last half a dozen tests?
Probably there but with a collective loss of confidence & too much pressure. Maybe Havili's kick in the first minute set the scene and gave them some confidence early on.
Only one game though and we've been here before. Pumas will be a stiff Test as they seem to tearing the Wobblies a new tonight.
The manner of the win was light years away from anything else.
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Yeah kudos to the players and coaches, a gazillion times better than our other win this year and I really didn't think they had it in them.
I'm left with this niggling thought though.... just where was that desire, drive and want the last half a dozen tests?
Probably there but with a collective loss of confidence & too much pressure. Maybe Havili's kick in the first minute set the scene and gave them some confidence early on.
Only one game though and we've been here before. Pumas will be a stiff Test as they seem to tearing the Wobblies a new tonight.
The manner of the win was light years away from anything else.
Yeah. Some real dog on show and improvements all over the park. Forwards, attack and defence all way better. Real "monkey off the back" win. Fingers crossed they can build on that against what looks a good Argie side.
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Fozzie did say he felt something special was brewing.
I wouldn't go as fast as saying that was a special performance except in the context of the last 5 weeks.
That, to me was more reminiscent of an AB performance bouncing back after a loss.
Were patches where the ghosts of the past couple of months returned, but by and large, one of the better 80 mins of the past couple of years.
Will it be a stay of execution for Fozzie, who knows, but if he and his coaching team can get a forward performance like that more often, we might just start that climb back toward #1
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Fozzie did say he felt something special was brewing.
I wouldn't go as fast as saying that was a special performance except in the context of the last 5 weeks.
That, to me was more reminiscent of an AB performance bouncing back after a loss.
Were patches where the ghosts of the past couple of months returned, but by and large, one of the better 80 mins of the past couple of years.
Will it be a stay of execution for Fozzie, who knows, but if he and his coaching team can get a forward performance like that more often, we might just start that climb back toward #1
ABs didn't bounce back against France after loss to Ireland last Nov. They didn't bounce back after loss to Ireland in Test 2 of series.
This is the first time they have bounced back. Difference? Plumtree out, Ryan in. A more simplified game plan. And a desire on show that has been missing. Question is, is Foster capable of getting this performance out of the players consistently? If answer is no, he needs to move on. The players are there.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Yeah kudos to the players and coaches, a gazillion times better than our other win this year and I really didn't think they had it in them.
I'm left with this niggling thought though.... just where was that desire, drive and want the last half a dozen tests?
Probably there but with a collective loss of confidence & too much pressure. Maybe Havili's kick in the first minute set the scene and gave them some confidence early on.
Only one game though and we've been here before. Pumas will be a stiff Test as they seem to tearing the Wobblies a new tonight.
The manner of the win was light years away from anything else.
Yeah. Some real dog on show and improvements all over the park. Forwards, attack and defence all way better. Real "monkey off the back" win. Fingers crossed they can build on that against what looks a good Argie side.
Should be no shortage of motivation. Cheika is coach 😁
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@Daffy-Jaffy I watched with SA commentary - they were pretty good, very even handed.
