Springboks v All Blacks I
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@Chris said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Chris said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Well that’s 3 in a row we have lost and 5 out of the last 6.
its bonkers
I have had a guts full of losing ,time for big changes
In that coaching set up.Ryan has to go.
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Never looked like they were in it. Crisis of confidence that's tearing through the team. Even a guy like Jordan has been affected.
Not looking forward to the next test. There is no way Foster (of all people) can arrest this slide. We will have a new coach by this time next week.
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@Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Foster should have been launched after the EOYT.
They have Kunted the team right up and ruined a load of their confidence prolonging this circus.
I'm loudmouthed about Cane but what the fuck has gone on there? He's a pathetic player now, let alone captain. Smith was the best halfback in the world, whitelock one of the best locks. All our experience is playing like chumps. Beauden is worse than Donald was.
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@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
My MOTM Kurt Lee Arendse. Maybe small but have a massive rugby heart.
Reckless on more than one occasion
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Defence has been better this week. Can't bag McLeod overly.
Forwards have been better at the maul. Can't bag Ryan.
Backline has been awful and attack disjointed. Who is in charge of that remit again? Poor Fozzie.
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did they outscore us with 14 men too?
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Foster Out!
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
My MOTM Kurt Lee Arendse. Maybe small but have a massive rugby heart.
Reckless on more than one occasion
a fucking toe rag. if ta'avao got 3 weeks for an accident this fella should be getting a custodial sentence.
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@MiketheSnow the kid grow up in Chigago Paarl, they use to dodge gangster bullets
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@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Defence has been better this week. Can't bag McLeod overly
Ok was I watching a different game? We gave up easy points to a bokke team that weren't interested in playing with the ball.
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I would drop Havili, Aaron Smith, Jordie, Akira, Cane, both starting props.
Mo'unga probably deserves a few tests now too.
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@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
My MOTM Kurt Lee Arendse. Maybe small but have a massive rugby heart.
Let me guess, Justice 4 KLA next week after he gets a lengthy ban….
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I can see Arendse only getting 50% of 6 weeks = 3 weeks. In games it may be longer, because he also has to go through concussion protocols.
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@Stargazer said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I can see Arendse only getting 50% of 6 weeks = 3 weeks. In games it may be longer, because he also has to go through concussion protocols.
Isn't 6 weeks low range? I would think that incident was higher?
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Feel sorry for Cane.
He was a great understudy.
Should gave started the SF in 2019, hopefully won and swanned off into the sunset.
He is a gutsy son of a bitch (injury comeback to be considered too) but he looks bereft.
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nostrildamusreplied to Stargazer on 6 Aug 2022, 17:16 last edited by nostrildamus 6 Aug 2022, 17:17
Well I'll just have to go back to sleep and pretend it was just a bad dream. I thought Cane tackled well but we need a more assertive Captain. Sami T proves he is number 1 hooker, BB again could not get direction going, Aaron seemed slower, our prop selection need a serious rethink, Jordan's worst test and I am not going to defend Coles any more.
Well done Boks-not Champagne rugby but heavy duty pub pet, still does the job. We lack cohesion, direction and dare I say it, strategy. -
@Stargazer why would he get a substantial discount like 50% when it was so reckless and dangerous with no mitigating factors.
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Stargazer said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I can see Arendse only getting 50% of 6 weeks = 3 weeks. In games it may be longer, because he also has to go through concussion protocols.
Isn't 6 weeks low range? I would think that incident was higher?
You're right. 50% of 8 weeks, so 4 weeks.
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I actually feel bad for players, nobody wants to feel the way they do. Some good stuff there but we are a side who clearly doesn’t have a DNA. SA, Ireland, France even Aussie have a clear plan and looked connected, us we look like we are searching and play with little confidence on attack which puts our basic skills (catch pass and breakdown) under pressure. We need our plan to suit the players we have, I think there are elements where we are copying others (yes the ABs are not the leaders of innovation!) not gonna bag players but we need guys who are smart when we don’t have the ball, again hate comparisons but Conrad Smith was awesome without the ball. I feel with our plan we can be one-trick- ponies out wide.. my issue is I have no confidence that this will change, it’s been a long time since we have looked cohesive
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Why can't we catch kicks?
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I thought Cane tackled well
When you're there to just tackle and miss your first tackle, a simple standard off the scrum.... you're not on your game. Time to go back and work on it.
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Oh fuck off Fozzie. Best performance of the year my ass.
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@Stargazer said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I can see Arendse only getting 50% of 6 weeks = 3 weeks. In games it may be longer, because he also has to go through concussion protocols.
He nearly Alex McKinnon'd Beaudy with a fucking retarded challenge. He shouldn't play again in this tournament.
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@Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I would drop Havili, Aaron Smith, Jordie, Akira, Cane, both starting props.
Mo'unga probably deserves a few tests now too.
and replace Akira with Shannon??
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@Bones defence I thought was much better. Issue was we have them some easy rides into out territory through high balls, and not being accurate at crucial times.
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So what did Foster learn from this performance this week? Which building blocks are close together exactly and which ones are miles apart?
I can't remember the last time I saw such a toothless AB attack. Boks didn't have to do much, if anything. Just make their tackles and wait for an AB mistake.
There was heart and effort on defence. But those should be a given.
Samisoni played well. Lineout went well. Scrum got better. Young props got better.
Backrow had no platform to work off. AB backline looks very confused. How many times did players receive the ball standing still? I shouldn't be, but I'm shocked. These players aren't as bad as they are playing.
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@Yeetyaah said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Oh fuck off Fozzie. Best performance of the year my ass.
Wait, what?? 😂
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@98blueandgold said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I actually feel bad for players, nobody wants to feel the way they do. Some good stuff there but we are a side who clearly doesn’t have a DNA. SA, Ireland, France even Aussie have a clear plan and looked connected, us we look like we are searching and play with little confidence on attack which puts our basic skills (catch pass and breakdown) under pressure. We need our plan to suit the players we have, I think there are elements where we are copying others (yes the ABs are not the leaders of innovation!) not gonna bag players but we need guys who are smart when we don’t have the ball, again hate comparisons but Conrad Smith was awesome without the ball. I feel with our plan we can be one-trick- ponies out wide.. my issue is I have no confidence that this will change, it’s been a long time since we have looked cohesive
I don’t disagree with what you have said, other than I think OZ are in a very similar boat to us. On evidence their plan is get the ball to Kerevi (or Koroibete) and see what happens.
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@Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Stargazer said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I can see Arendse only getting 50% of 6 weeks = 3 weeks. In games it may be longer, because he also has to go through concussion protocols.
He nearly Alex McKinnon'd Beaudy with a fucking retarded challenge. He shouldn't play again in this tournament.
But he does get the Not An All Black discount. So probably only 2 weeks.
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I would drop Havili, Aaron Smith, Jordie, Akira, Cane, both starting props.
Mo'unga probably deserves a few tests now too.
and replace Akira with Shannon??
Was Akira that bad? did some important tackles and at least one lineout.Making ok tackles is not enough.
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@98blueandgold said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I actually feel bad for players, nobody wants to feel the way they do. Some good stuff there but we are a side who clearly doesn’t have a DNA. SA, Ireland, France even Aussie have a clear plan and looked connected, us we look like we are searching and play with little confidence on attack which puts our basic skills (catch pass and breakdown) under pressure. We need our plan to suit the players we have, I think there are elements where we are copying others (yes the ABs are not the leaders of innovation!) not gonna bag players but we need guys who are smart when we don’t have the ball, again hate comparisons but Conrad Smith was awesome without the ball. I feel with our plan we can be one-trick- ponies out wide.. my issue is I have no confidence that this will change, it’s been a long time since we have looked cohesive
I seen Rieko catch a pass around 60 minutes and I thought Jesus , I forgot he was playing.
The 23 is something you would select when you are 14. Picking all the fast lads .
This team lacks Ben from accounts, Crotty's, Conrads, Franks brothers. Nuts and bolts. Hang your hat on them players.
This team isn't even doing the simple stuff well. Never mind the razzle dazzle.
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Foster really doesn't seem that upset about destroying our legacy does he.
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@Bones yes give you that but he stopped a lot of their hooker's drive. I cant see him getting much of a running and linking game back (promising glimpse in 2021 never returned). And he doesn't seem to be winning tackles either. My point was really to srparate the captaincy issue from 7 issue (and i still think Ardie is more of a 7 than 8, our best 7).
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Next week's predictions are going to be ugly.
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@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
So what did Foster learn from this performance this week? Which building blocks are close together exactly and which ones are miles apart?
I can't remember the last time I saw such a toothless AB attack. Boks didn't have to do much, if anything. Just make their tackles and wait for an AB mistake.
There was heart and effort on defence. But those should be a given.
Samisoni played well. Lineout went well. Scrum got better. Young props got better.
Backrow had no platform to work off. AB backline looks very confused. How many times did players receive the ball standing still? I shouldn't be, but I'm shocked. These players aren't as bad as they are playing.
It was mainly forwards receiving it standing still. Our attack for most of the game lacked execution and precision.
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@Yeetyaah said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Oh fuck off Fozzie. Best performance of the year my ass.
To be fair, it's a low bar.
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