Foster, Robertson etc

Nepia

@Bovidae I had Gilbert Enoka's brother for a PE teacher.

Either Enoka is older than I thought or you're younger than I thought.

Chris B.

@Nepia Or he's got a much older brother.

But, it's the latter.

I played social cricket against Gilbert in my youth - and he's several years older than me. He was a gun volleyballer in those days - as was his brother Bernie.

KiwiMurph

Brilliant comms by NZR once again.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300641511/wait-for-all-blacks-coach-ian-fosters-fate-to-be-revealed-set-to-drag-on

New Zealand Rugby’s (NZR) board was expected to meet Wednesday, but it’s understood no such meeting went ahead.

TV crews were camped outside NZR headquarters in Wellington on Wednesday morning, before being told by a NZR staffer the board was not meeting to decide All Blacks coach Foster’s fate.

It’s understood Foster met with NZR chief executive Mark Robinson on Tuesday, and is unlikely to be given the boot.

However, there could be significant changes to the coaching group, with former Ireland coach and All Blacks selector Joe Schmidt potentially coming on board in a caretaker type role.

Donsteppa

@Nepia said in Foster must go:

I'm not one of the Auckland crew (I'm the fan of Akira from the provinces crew) but the anti Ioane crew assign him that deck chair every match despite what their eyes and the stats say.

I would pick him at six every time ahead of Card Magnet Barrett. The deck chair metaphor is mainly admiring the fan defence.

Sam Cane does not get thrown under the bus to save Ferret Foster without at least the BoP Mafia staunchly defending him. Not on my watch

Bones

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

@Bones said in Foster must go:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

@BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

Over at Stuff

"Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

Worse than anything you get in the UK - and that's saying something.

Why?

The dog-whistle implication that the coaching staff are racist for a start.

Comes across as a bloke who was denied the chance of a rant at the expected presser.

Care to share? I skim read through it all and couldn't find anything that seemed like an attack. Most of it just seemed like obvious observations.

Edit: Oh you did. Funny how much different people can read it. I read that as Reason being racist, rather than him saying the coaches are Racist. Reason thinks the brown faces aren't going that good and that they must need special care and attention.

Nepia

@Donsteppa said in Foster must go:

@Nepia said in Foster must go:

I'm not one of the Auckland crew (I'm the fan of Akira from the provinces crew) but the anti Ioane crew assign him that deck chair every match despite what their eyes and the stats say.

I would pick him at six every time ahead of Card Magnet Barrett. The deck chair metaphor is mainly admiring the fan defence.

Sam Cane does not get thrown under the bus to save Ferret Foster without at least the BoP Mafia staunchly defending him. Not on my watch

Despite the fact he's one of yours, spit, I am always happy to join in to defend him.

Bones

@Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

Machpants

Both Ferald and Stuff reporting nothing coming today, meeting didn't happen (and it is not to do with Foster's future), and enhanced Schmidt roll aka deck chairs on the titanic

Billy Tell

@Bones said in Foster must go:

@Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

No I didn’t. But that is what stuff replied to me explaining in part why they let the article through.

Kiwiwomble

i dont remember ever hearing "fish-heads" as a term for board/management in rugby but i also dont think ive ever heard it as any kind of offensive slur

Billy Tell

@Machpants said in Foster must go:

Both Ferald and Stuff reporting nothing coming today, meeting didn't happen (and it is not to do with Foster's future), and enhanced Schmidt roll aka deck chairs on the titanic

Tbh if foster was ok previously as assistant and he is demoted back to this role with Schmidt as head coach, while it’s not my preference, it’s better than the current setup.

Machpants

@Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

@Machpants said in Foster must go:

Both Ferald and Stuff reporting nothing coming today, meeting didn't happen (and it is not to do with Foster's future), and enhanced Schmidt roll aka deck chairs on the titanic

Tbh if foster was ok previously as assistant and he is demoted back to this role with Schmidt as head coach, while it’s not my preference, it’s better than the current setup.

Nah he stay's head coach, Schmidt in as No 2 or something, according to articles

Bones

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster must go:

i dont remember ever hearing "fish-heads" as a term for board/management in rugby but i also dont think ive ever heard it as any kind of offensive slur

Must just be us cosmopolitans

KiwiMurph

Ian Foster set to be retained as All Blacks coach - for now at least

Chester Draws

@Bovidae said in Foster must go:

@Chris-B I remember hearing a few stories about Fawcett back when he was my PE teacher. He's had an eventful career since then.

"Eventful" being quite the euphemism there.

I have had the misfortune of running across his path a few times in my life, luckily always briefly. Generally I think most people have a good side, but I've never met a person with a good word for him.

Victor Meldrew

@Bones said in Foster must go:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

@Bones said in Foster must go:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

@BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

Over at Stuff

"Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

Worse than anything you get in the UK - and that's saying something.

Why?

The dog-whistle implication that the coaching staff are racist for a start.

Comes across as a bloke who was denied the chance of a rant at the expected presser.

Care to share? I skim read through it all and couldn't find anything that seemed like an attack. Most of it just seemed like obvious observations.

Edit: Oh you did. Funny how much different people can read it. I read that as Reason being racist, rather than him saying the coaches are Racist. Reason thinks the brown faces aren't going that good and that they must need special care and attention.

That too. Patronising BS.

But it was the statement that Foster didn't get the best out of specific racial groups which stood out. Classic dog-whistle accusation for me.

bayimports

lol, meeting never went ahead apparently, I wonder if "Karen" Malcolm probably cancelled that too because she was worried about the boards feelings

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300641511/wait-for-all-blacks-coach-ian-fosters-fate-to-be-revealed-set-to-drag-on

nostrildamus

In answer to an earlier post, Christian Cullen married a Mandy Fawcett and I have nothing bad to say about her dad (then again I don't know any of them).

Unite

@bayimports

There are a few comments to her post about cancelling the meeting on LinkedIn as well.

taniwharugby

@Bones said in Foster must go:

@Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

I don't think it is specific to rugby, I heard the term years ago and not anything to do with rugby, not a slur as such, IIRC I heard it in relation to accountants (from an accountant about his boss)

The Silver Fern

Foster, Robertson etc