Foster, Robertson etc
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@kiwi_expat so close! And yet, it's really quite common for Baabaas to upset top test teams, so it should probably be pretty embarrassing for him that he hasn't put a century on the C team from a nation who is only ranked 3rd/4th.
A bunch of guys who will only make the top side for RWC if like 3 to 4 other players fall over. Well done Scott! Participation award.
I know right thank god we have the Fat controller leading us to glory.
That win over Scotland was awe inspiring.
I can’t wait to go smash England this Weekend and win the WC in 2023 done deal under our present HC.
Extend Foster through to 2031 we must be able to get through the qualifying to make it to the WC in 2027 and 2031.
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@Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.
not funny,a fucking miracle.
If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
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@Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.
not funny,a fucking miracle.
If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.
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@Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.
not funny,a fucking miracle.
If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.
Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.
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I know right thank god we have the Fat controller leading us to glory.
That win over Scotland was awe inspiring.Foster "“If you go back 12 months to the last two tests of the year, to where we tripped up in the north, both those tests we were in contention at the start of the last quarter but perhaps [we] didn’t show the composure that we showed today.
“That shows some good signs of growth. "
Yeah apparently a brave come back against a team ranked 9th in the world, who has never beaten us, shows that we've improved since last tour. Please, the only improvement is that the opposition this year are easy beats (who we haven't beaten easily). England will be a different kettle of fish.
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@nostrildamus said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@kiwi_expat said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
A higher priority than getting the best out of his players and team?
based on 12 years of evidence as head coach of Chiefs & NZ he's failed at that too.
Yeah, but you and Gregor Paul are arguing that's less important than managing the media.
Actually, I recall an article interviewing Steve Hansen where he said near the end of his tenure he found the demands of managing the media etc getting increasingly difficult to balance time-wise with performance-driven coaching.
Might explain why the last few years of his tenure weren't that great results-wise then.
Probably wouldn't have made it past the RWC2019 Quarter-finals if he'd taken heed of @kiwi_expat & Gregor Paul's criticism of Foster on the subject..
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@Machpants said in Foster:
I know right thank god we have the Fat controller leading us to glory.
That win over Scotland was awe inspiring.Foster "“If you go back 12 months to the last two tests of the year, to where we tripped up in the north, both those tests we were in contention at the start of the last quarter but perhaps [we] didn’t show the composure that we showed today.
“That shows some good signs of growth. "
Yeah apparently a brave come back against a team ranked 9th in the world, who has never beaten us, shows that we've improved since last tour. Please, the only improvement is that the opposition this year are easy beats (who we haven't beaten easily). England will be a different kettle of fish.
Totally agree.
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@Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.
not funny,a fucking miracle.
If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.
Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.
Anyone can beat anyone in the finals? Apart from England getting a sweet run when has that not been the case? That's not something brought about by Foster.
Also, you didn't answer the question, just invented a new one.
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@Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.
not funny,a fucking miracle.
If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.
Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.
You in politics? Answer the question you want to be asked not the one you actually were.
And in answer, kinda, to @Bones we havent beaten France, Italy, any of the PIs, Chile, USA ...
France could proves tricky, but reckon we have a starter's chance.
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@Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.
not funny,a fucking miracle.
If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.
Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.
You in politics? Answer the question you want to be asked not the one you actually were.
And in answer, kinda, to @Bones we havent beaten France, Italy, any of the PIs, Chile, USA ...
France could proves tricky, but reckon we have a starter's chance.
I answer what I want to respond to not what you tell me to.
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@kiwi_expat said in Foster:
Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.
Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.
Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.
Yep astounding result from Razor and amazing insight from you. It was his inspiration that clearly caused Stevenson to bobble drop the ball that should have won the match and his tip to Lauret to make Makalio botch the last throw. And sheer genius to forge combinations with only 8 or so La Rochelle players. You can see it all so clearly. Totally outgunned the AB XV with their greater experience from several of the team having played most of a previous match and only a few of them arriving since the team got to the UK.
Meanwhile the AB's second string lineup was too inept to go for a crowning try because they did not realise they were only 8 points ahead of an opponent they would have beaten by 50 with Razor coaching, despite them fielding their top lineup, which had troubled some other top 10 teams.
You don't suppose Ronan O'Gara might have had some input somewhere?
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@Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.
not funny,a fucking miracle.
If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.
Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.
Anyone can beat anyone in the finals? Apart from England getting a sweet run when has that not been the case? That's not something brought about by Foster.
Also, you didn't answer the question, just invented a new
Of course it is Fosters fault, Have you not been reading this thread he is responsible for everything even the shortage of donuts.
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@Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.
not funny,a fucking miracle.
If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.
Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.
You in politics? Answer the question you want to be asked not the one you actually were.
And in answer, kinda, to @Bones we havent beaten France, Italy, any of the PIs, Chile, USA ...
France could proves tricky, but reckon we have a starter's chance.
I answer what I want to respond to not what you tell me to.
Hah, not retarded at all. Just go a solo post then, no need to quote my question to you that you don't have the gumption to answer.
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@Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.
not funny,a fucking miracle.
If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.
Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.
Anyone can beat anyone in the finals? Apart from England getting a sweet run when has that not been the case? That's not something brought about by Foster.
Also, you didn't answer the question, just invented a new
Of course it is Fosters fault, Have you not been reading this thread he is responsible for everything even the shortage of donuts.
KFC don't mind though.
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@Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.
not funny,a fucking miracle.
If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.
Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.
You in politics? Answer the question you want to be asked not the one you actually were.
And in answer, kinda, to @Bones we havent beaten France, Italy, any of the PIs, Chile, USA ...
France could proves tricky, but reckon we have a starter's chance.
I answer what I want to respond to not what you tell me to.
Hah, not retarded at all. Just go a solo post then, no need to quote my question to you that you don't have the gumption to answer.
I like quoting you it’s inspiring to read your replies.
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Not sure what is more hyperbolic anymore.
The criticism of Foster or the praise given to Robertson.
Yes, you can put results side by side and have a comparison whinge if you want, but if you give Scotland the true credit they actually deserve, you'll come up with the conclusion that Foster smashed Robertson this weekend.
Scots are a good team, at home, with a backline far far superior to what we put out. They are at peak of their season, we are at the end. And we beat them, with out playing our best team.
Ups to Foster.
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@MajorRage said in Foster:
Not sure what is more hyperbolic anymore.
The criticism of Foster or the praise given to Robertson.
Yes, you can put results side by side and have a comparison whinge if you want, but if you give Scotland the true credit they actually deserve, you'll come up with the conclusion that Foster smashed Robertson this weekend.
Scots are a good team, at home, with a backline far far superior to what we put out. They are at peak of their season, we are at the end. And we beat them, with out playing our best team.
Ups to Foster.
Scotland would have annihilated those Baabaas.
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@MajorRage said in Foster:
Not sure what is more hyperbolic anymore.
The criticism of Foster or the praise given to Robertson.
Yes, you can put results side by side and have a comparison whinge if you want, but if you give Scotland the true credit they actually deserve, you'll come up with the conclusion that Foster smashed Robertson this weekend.
Scots are a good team, at home, with a backline far far superior to what we put out. They are at peak of their season, we are at the end. And we beat them, with out playing our best team.
Ups to Foster.
Um are you implying the NZ XV are crap?
Speaking of peak of season, when was ours? Honestly don't know.
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